5nl Stars - Should I donk lead a rivered straight?
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5nl Stars - Should I donk lead a rivered straight?
BB: $5.00
UTG: $4.10
MP: $6.54
CO: $5.52
BN: $5.00
SB wins $2.20
Rake is $0.10
I should've probably folded pre.
Not topped up because playing on mobile, I only top up <90bb, too inconvienient.
I decided to not have a raising range on this board.
5nl stars is infested with weak regs (including me). <5% are actually decent, most are slightly losing regs with tons of leaks. Among these weak regs a population tendency is to rarely triple barrel for bluffs or thin value. Based on that read, I figured I show be donking rivers polarized in these sorts of spots.
If this seems good, my questions are:
-> What would be a good size? (I was thinking 1/2-2/3 pot to get value from top pairs)
-> Should I be imbalanced towards value or bluffs or neither?
-> Do I just choose bluff combos that best block folding range and not block calling range?
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Normally I would advocate no but I think theres some decent reasons for a lead here to make it an exception.
These 2 points lead me to believe that he s unlikely to bet the river and you can go for a 2/3 ish bet and people hate folding at this limit. He may even still raise a set the times we re wrong about this and his turn bet isnt as capped as I think.
Cool idea though and interesting spot.
Fwiw pretty sure J9s is a fold in the sb here. In bb you can argue a call as better odds and closing the action but sb is LOT worse. I would argue its the worst position at the table. UTG and SB have a competition going for that :D.
So if I was to create a strategy here on similar dry boards, Do you think I Should be value or bluff heavy? I feel like the problem is I dont know how I could be bluffing on this board except for if I take this line with 3 combos of QJs. I guess the best thing would be not get in this spot period? What do you think would be appropriate for a sb calling range vs this preflop action? Maybe I should only have a 3bet range? What situation would you have a sb calling range?
You can call stuff like KJs, AJs, ATs just strong suited broadways or pairs that play well multiway.
J9s is not a terrible call but as a default a bit too loose. JTs is probably fine to call imo (still a tiny bit too loose maybe).
Flop check/call seems fine. We don't have enough strong hands to make a case for leading flop and we don't want to get raised if we lead here (which people can do if they have an overpair).
Turn again I like a check/call. Our Jack can be good and we have some implieds if we hit.
OTR you should definitely lead imo because people will very often check back all their Tx now but may call your bet if you decide to lead.
What bluff combos can I have?
You can turn 98s into a bluff for example. Remember that it's more important how he perceives you than what you actually do.
Say even if you never bluff here I think you're still getting a bunch of calls (people just like to call at 5NL).
The thing is that once you notice you get a bunch of folds in these spots you can start adapting. It will rarely ever happen that you can make such adaptions but by being observant and noticing patterns in your opponents play there will be spots where you can play very player dependant :).
I have a very exploitive mindset btw.
Its also possible that its a spot where you should both value bet the str8 and bluff a lot. The reason you lead for value is cause he ll check back a lot so you may as well lead. Then it can also be possible that he wont call enough so then you can bluff a lot. These spots don t come up a ton but its cool when they do.
Also ya I generally play a 3bet or fold strat from the sb. Big winners definitely play a calling range from the sb some but I m chosing avoid this and simplify my game to concentrate on other decisions atm.
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