im curious about your thoughts if the river is a brick?

forbaron
This changes things quite a bit: Don't forget that the amount of AK-combos (16) is a huge portion of the range I described.
So if it is possible that Ak triples off as a bluff and villain lacks of JTs/QTs (or the potential TT sometimes), this becomes much more of a call....

alright thanks a lot sir, appreciate it very much

edit: actually one more thing and i hope you don't mind, what about on a 2c for example, esp that we have the Qc?

forbaron
This is a tough one with 2c…The Qc in this case doesnt block flushes much as all FD containing a Q (and that we beat) wont bet the turn for this sizing i guess: KsQs could be the only combo that we block and that might bet the turn though.
Theorywise i still expect this to be call, but i could imagine that overfolding this spot at 5nl is the way to go…close either way

Hi RaoulFlush, could you elaborate a bit on why Ac is calling off here? I would think that Ac means less missed flush draws that villain is barreling with?

iohenkies
Maybe I wasn't clear enough: Wizard is raising all combos of AQo here either OTF or OTT beside the AcQx hands.
So these are the only combos that the solver gets to the river with and still calls it off...
However: There is something you need to be aware of when it comes to solver-solutions: In basically every spot solvers check the river with a missed NFD.
So theory wise blocking the NFD makes a combo a better call down than the other ones.
This will indeed be different in real life where players still tend to triple off strong FD often in most pools.
But even if we would arrive in your spot with more combos, im sure wizard will prefer hero calling the river with the Ac

It's actually a 3b vs and ISO. MP limps and here isolates.

I think charts would say "no way" to a fold preflop, I think data will tell us that this is the worst of the offsuit combos we want to continue with here. Remember, you close the action and the price is just so good after MP limp/folds. Against a tight 5% SB linear range here, AQo has upwards of 40% equity but, AQo only flops the best hand @ 30% of the time. As we slide it out to 8%, AQo flops so well against the wider range that there is no way we can fold pre.

Also, this is a simple and massively profitable call down on all rivers besides the T, K or club. In short, we are calling a ton of rivers so we can rely on texture data and know for a fact that the T river is really bad.

The alternative to what went on in this hand is to isolate larger. I think I always prefer a large ISO vs 4x or smaller. I would have gone to 5 or 6bb. As we do this, we can narrow our range even more and hands like AQo can be mucked pre more often when facing resistance. I like the bigger iso size with my value hands since the pools plays like shit in lines like this. I like the bigger size with my bluffs, since it becomes simple to just respect further aggression and fold confidently and avoid the domination nightmares we get into vs ranges that are lacking bluffs (both a limp re-raising MP and /or a SB 3b).

Depends a lot on MP stats (both pool and individual). For instance, my pool limps MP @ 8.5% of the time. With AA, they have raised first in from MP 3787 times and limped it 646 times. 646/4433 = 14.7%. There are 6 possible combos of AA, they are essentially limping 1 time in 6. They limp AKo 10% of the time. They limp suited aces. They limp pairs. They limp connectors.

You call see below what the MP ranges look like in my pool. The green grid is their RFI range and the blue grid is the limp range. The lighter color the boxes, the more often that hand is in the Limp range.