5bet shove
Posted by Claret N Blue
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Claret N Blue
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5bet shove
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players)
CO: $10.00
BN: $23.62
SB: $10.00 (Hero)
BB: $8.75
UTG: $12.78
MP: $20.35
BN: $23.62
SB: $10.00 (Hero)
BB: $8.75
UTG: $12.78
MP: $20.35
CO is 32/26/2 0% 3bet & flatted vs 3bets with AKs, 99 after 85hands
BTN is 36/32 22% 3bet after 50hands
I think my cold 4bet size is too small here and should be minimum 25bb?
What range do you assign for villains 5bet shove?
BTN is 36/32 22% 3bet after 50hands
I think my cold 4bet size is too small here and should be minimum 25bb?
What range do you assign for villains 5bet shove?
Preflop
($0.15)
Hero is SB with
K
A
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I'm expecting the CO to have KK+, AK on this one.
At best we are splitting so I guess it's a fold.
Thanks for the reply. What sizing would you recommend my the cold 4bet?
In game i thought it was close, and wasn’t sure of the action i chose.
I think the size is fine. Maybe could do 21bb since BU 3bet is small imo. He did 7.5bb for a 3bb open raise. I would do 3x (9bb). For 9bb, OOP, I reckon 23bb is okay. Happy to change sizings given a good argument to do it :)
Fold seems fine. It sucks that we invested so much money in the pot and have to fold now though. But our cold 4-bet here is against 2 uncapped ranges so percieved as strong. It seems likely that CO is nitty if we saw him flat AKs vs a 3-bet and has a low 3-bet %. And he is also jamming here against 2 uncapped ranges.
Thanks for the reply. What sizing would you advise for my cold 4bet here?
I'm not folding, we are bluffing with AK then when we 4bet. I had to do the math and it seems you guys are right.
Correct me if I'm wrong, pot is $13 and we have to call $7.7, so we need 59% equity to break even. Against AK, JJ+ we have just 40%. Is that the way it works, or do we need to consider the final pot size? If so, it's a clear call against that range.
Regarding counting pot odds:
Think about artificial example where the pot is 1$ and you need to call 1$. Do you need to win this 100% of the time or 50% of the time? Then after analyzing that come back to original pot :)
Regarding call/fold:
Why did you say that we are bluffing? Also I am not sure if I would say that CO has JJ,QQ here. But if you are looking at it only equity wise and assume that villain pushes AK then AK has 37% vs KK+,AK, still quite good :) Question is if he has AK here when he has 3bet% at 2% (am I reading this correctly?) and been seen flatting AK to 3bet previously.
Thank you
Villains 3bet is zero so far. The 2 in the stats is his agg.
What I meant is if you are going to fold to the jam wouldn't it be better to do that with AJ or A5, for example? I mean, it's a difficult spot, we don't want to cold call but once we 4bet my automatic response is calling the shove, what Im realising here is that maybe that's a mistake.
On the other hand, we have 85 hands on the player, I don't think we can know anything reliable about his 5bet shoving range with 85 hands.
It is the year 2020 and we don't just blindly 3bet stack off with AKo. Our brains developed more wrinkles and know getting in AKo here is -ev, so we fold.
What’s your get it in range here?
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