Too exact of a spot and too close of a spot to get a forum reply on. What must be true for shove to be better than call?

I'm probably just shoving for the reasons you mentioned and the fact he will probably not feel obligated to bluff a blank river with a missed draw, with the pots odds you will be getting.

I can't see call vs. shove mattering very much but I'd go with shove because of the hh combos he could have.

I think preflop is probably a shove for 50bb with your loose 3bet read.

I wouldnt make any deviations based on getting 3bet just three times, unless you've seen a showdown which proofs that villain has a loose 3bet range. I would just call the turn to give villain the opportunity to bluff rivers, I dont think it's an arguement to shove cause of the possibility villain holds a FD, you block most of villains flushdraws as long as villain is not having a 18%+ 3betrange in that spot.

4bet preflop imo

This seems super close in either direction. I do prefer a 4-bet pre with players as described.

i think i would call since we have a hand that doesnt need any protection. u never know when someone is maybe still spewing it off. but really close one i think. definitly fine to shove also.