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[50NL Zoom 6-max] Fold AA in 4-bet pot 100bb deep?

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[50NL Zoom 6-max] Fold AA in 4-bet pot 100bb deep?

Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BN: $33.92
SB: $51.98
BB: $73.05
UTG: $180.40
MP: $53.40 (Hero)
CO: $60.19
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is MP with A A
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, SB raises to $4.00, BB folds, Hero raises to $10.50, SB calls $6.50
Flop ($21.50) K J Q
SB checks, Hero checks
Turn ($21.50) K J Q 5
SB bets $10.21, Hero calls $10.21
River ($41.92) K J Q 5 8
SB bets $31.27 and is all in

No hands on villain. Complete unknown.

So the flop comes down about as bad as it can in a 4-bet pot for AA. So pretty standard check back I think. Though we likely wouldn't check back with a set so it turns our hand face up as either AA/AK/AQ/AJ or a random bluff that gave up. With that in mind, does anyone prefer a 1/3 PSB?

On the turn, does anyone fold?

On the river, does anyone call?

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Kingetje123 6 years, 8 months ago

This is a terrible flop for you, I would bet the flop though with a 1/3 bet (you could very wel have JJ-KK in this spot). I think he will fold all of his hands accept his sets and AK's (which you block), because of you re check he starts betting the turn and with you're call he nows you're weak ( I guess I would put you on AA or AK or worse by then) and he barrels river all in and you have to fold....

I've you bet the flop, you will get the answer you need, if he calls you should be scared and probably fold to all in river (he will be checking turn to you). By checking the flop en calling turn you know nothing and you are in the dark on the river.

Well I hope it makes some sense

GameTheory 6 years, 8 months ago

On the turn, does anyone fold?

Don't call if your range is faced up capped AA/AK/AQ/AJ against a range that is so strong that even the very best hand in your range can barely call on most rivers.

On the river, does anyone call?

BubbleNedRum 6 years, 8 months ago

I disagree, against an obv. recreational it is not important that our range is "face up". he will clearly not think about our range.
given his preflop sizing we can discount a lot of the sets and ATs is heavily blocked. against our passive line I see him spazzing often enough with random JTs/QTs etc. to call down.

sirin 6 years, 8 months ago

Vs an unknown I think you have to call, he could have anything up to and including value cutting himself with AK.
You will usually lose but you don't need to be good very often for it to be a call.

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