50nl Weird spot with QQ in 4bet pot
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50nl Weird spot with QQ in 4bet pot
BN: $174.99
SB: $50.55
BB: $50 (Hero)
UTG: $62.74
HJ: $53
CO: $86.24
SB: $50.55
BB: $50 (Hero)
UTG: $62.74
HJ: $53
CO: $86.24
BTN is
31/24
btn steal : 66%
fold to 3bet otb: 73%
SB is:
25/19 with a 13% 3bet sb/btn.
31/24
btn steal : 66%
fold to 3bet otb: 73%
SB is:
25/19 with a 13% 3bet sb/btn.
Preflop
($0.75)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
Q
Q
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $1.75, SB raises to $5.75, Hero raises to $11, BN calls $9.25, SB folds
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $1.75, SB raises to $5.75, Hero raises to $11, BN calls $9.25, SB folds
I have some aggressive dynamic with SB in 3bet/4bet spots, so I definitely think 4bet/gii is fine against him.
Flop
($28.50)
J
5
K
(2 Players)
I really didn't expect the btn to flat, and I have a hard time putting him on a range. I was also clueless about how to continue the hand.
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Cold 4 gii with QQ vs SB should be pretty fine, obvs not fist pump loving life, but yeah im just gunna go with it. You cant fold to the 3bet, and once you 4bet you cant fold a value hand, if you also have bluffs in your range.
Btn over calling the cold 4 is a clear indication that he is likely a fish. I would be leaning toward putting him on a really narrow range of like JJ-QQ and AK that was just to scared to gii pre Vs the action, but just couldn't lay it down.
Flop given its so hard to put him on a range, i guess we can go ahead and check/call the flop, and just fold most turns. Since its just so unclear what he could be holding.
In reality the times he checks back the flop you have the best hand more often than not, and the time he bets you are probs crushed, so check/folding the flop might actually be fine, but seems pretty ridiculous, given that he is a fish, and could possibly be peeling with like 86s or some random shit.
There just isn't much point in going into this in great detail, or worrying about it, its going to come up once in a blue moon, and its highly more beneficial for you to study the heavily reoccurring situations of the game.
Thanks. Later his stats correlated to typical reg stats, so he isn't a fish. He was also multi-tabling as I realized later. What would be your assumptions about his range if he is a regular for sure?
I would c/c flop; the only hand I see villain having that beats us is AK. We block KQo and he still has some smaller PPs which would fold to a bet but might potentially randomly bet this flop. Given that you're blocking soem SDs and that he probably doesn't have too many FD hands, you don't really have to protect your hand.
If you say he is a regular, then he most certainly is a pretty bad one, calling a cold 4bet with SB still to act is just terrible, With any hand whatsoever. I would treat him as a regfish, and be inclined to think that he doesnt have the spew monkey stuff like 86s, and heavily weight his range toward AK, JJ-QQ that was scared to jam. Possibly AA that is trying to be cute. But no matter what he has its just really bad, especially like 100bb effective.
Other than that, i can only think that it might just be a multi tabling missclick.
I bet/called in the heat of the moment figuring he would ship all his broadways and flush draws he could've ended up with here, I never imagined he is capable of just calling AK and I block KQ. It was definitely just a biased perception of his range to support my decision, but I'm still not sure whether it was good or not. He had KK btw.
bet/fold can be good i guess. I dont think opp will bluff 4bet pot, so if he has K or JJ he will raise. You can check/fold turn after his calling flop.
He can have some suited connector i guess, he has pos and he can float you turn after calling low flop or he can flop nuts. But he can call with AA, KK or AKs, AQs for playing postflop.
He has 3,5 bb raise btn is it normally?
sorry for my english,
omg what is guy doing on the button. I consider 4betting a little bigger to just gii pre against a 4b but this flop is really bad for your hand and I can x/c, x/f and be sick about it. to balance my x/c range I would put KK and AdA there so I think it is enough.
AQs and AKs is a very probable hands to call in this situation, also 88-JJ. With BN thinking SB to call along.
U rep, QQ+ or air, so the only hands that beats u is AK and JJ.
13dolls bet on flop should be fine, its not to big if he calls or pushes for us to lose.
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