50nl vs unknown reg vs 2barrel dry board
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50nl vs unknown reg vs 2barrel dry board
SB: $40
BB: $50 (Hero)
BN raises to $1, SB folds, Hero calls $0.50
I face a minopen from a reg, defend wide. Obviously c/c flop, but now I am lost. This happens to me very often, and is probably a big reason my bb winrate is so terrible. I do have CREV, willing to put some work in. Like how do you decide how much % to call here? Like he has KQ/AK/KK, I don't, other than that our ranges do about the same on this board I guess. He needs 41% of folds for immediate profit on turn, so if we don't want to give his non equity bluffs profit by betting, I guess we need to defend 59% of our range. Is this true? I am not really experienced with game theory at all, but maybe it is the only way to figure out if I should start calling turns like this. All help appreciated. Have been playing some with CREV myself, and if I call flop with some Ax, pairs, suited cards above the 6 with bdfd, we can call turn with 2nd pair+ and still call like 60%. Thoughts?
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in this spot I'm calling vs regs who open 50%+ or ar double barreling 50%+
Do you mind explaining that a bit?
Call turn and CR bluff all-in good rivers repping 66 since you're blocking it and villain is pretty likely to fire a 3rd barrell? You also have some showdown value when he checks the river. Reads would be valuable obviously. Seiteen probably referred to opponents with wide ranges who barrell a lot and thus have wide ranges in this spot.
Very interesting play, man! CRE to his 66 combos + you're unlikely to have a strong Kx in your range, so Villain would triple this board pretty often, and I think that even his AK/AA combos will be in a terrible spot once you XC/XC/XRAI.
As for the spot in general, I think that it really depends on the Villain. And it could vary from XF the F to XCdown. Readless, I'd probably fold the T and move on - not a good card for an unk reg to be bluffing, so you'd need him to keep firing his no-equity bluffs because he expects you to call wide otf and know that the card is not good for bluffing, so if he bets, he's never bluffing, which is an unnecessary level game.
I get that but I mean more like, how do you figure out with lets say flopzilla if this is profitable? Or should we use crev? Things like that is what I wonder about since clearly just asking for lines didnt improve my game much yet.
I don't think that you can clearly figure out what's best ehre, cause you need to know what villain usually does here. generally speaking, I feel like many regs do second barrel these boards a lot simply because they figure that you will have tons of second pairs here and that it's going to be difficult for you to call down. You clearly have to call a good deal of your second pairs here to make it more difficult for him to exploit you (assuming that he doesn't have a turn c bet% of 30% or something like that). I think I would call 77, 88, 99 as default here and some 6x. C/r turn or river seems like an interesting play though. I guess one might c/r A6 on the river cause we block AK and AA. Not a spot I have figured out by any stretch of the imagination, but assuming that he has a very wide range and that he will second barrel a lot, you have to call relatively wide, I would say.
Too many "here's" in that reply....
Fancy syndrom is expanding.
Fold turn unless you have clear reads that vilain is barreling air on dry boards. That's simply all the reasonning that's needed here.
I give up. This big blind winrate is something I cant fix myself. Decided to book a lot of coaching to get my bb winrate up.
What is your guys bb winrate at 6max?
All you need to do is create the situation in CREV, estimate your opponent as an average reg, and try to create a range you deem likely to bet flop and turn. Put on your entire range; preflop, then decide the hands you want to call the flop with. Next loom at the turn, include calling all hands in your range. Finish the tree by having villain betting and checking river, with a reasonable betting range. And your calling/folding river ranges. Run the simulation. From this you will clearly see the portions of your range that can profitably call the turn.
Will do, can upload it if u want to take a look at it?
Yeah probs a good odea, its very hard to write out exactly what i mean, so i may not of fully got the idea across..
Thanks man, I appreciate that. Will have coaching this evening for my big blind winrate. Any coaches on RiO who make vids who are good in the blinds for small stakes?
No problem, maybe a good idea to drop me a pm when u post it, as i get lost trying to reply to everything on this forum, the reply/notification system isnt that great imo, but its a very good forum for knowledge.
Just watch the lefort videos, they are more concerning preflop math but still very relevant.
I think a good thing you can do is just filter your database to BB flat call spots, and where you have called flop and faced a turn cbet. The go through these hands and try to logically and realistically decide whether you get to showdown enough, even if you think you have the best hand on the turn alot, sometimes things get so complicated on the river its hard to know where you are at. studying these spots and really thinking about villains ranges, what they are likely to be/what they should be barelling the turn with, etc. will help you be more confident in the hands you play in game, and be more confident with your decisions.
i prefer this as a 3b. ez x/f ott
So had my coaching. Apparently I am losing over a big sample with clear calls bb vs button minopen. Like k9o-k7o, a8o-a2o, suited connectors, suited kings and queens. Obviously I mean worse than -100bb/100 here. So basically I have to improve a lot postflop mainly. Any ideas how to approach this?
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