50nl River c/r - Exploit with pure value or hyper polarised balanced shove?
Posted by George Archer
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50nl River c/r - Exploit with pure value or hyper polarised balanced shove?
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (3 Players)
SB: $76.92
BB: $68.07 (Hero)
BN: $50.00
BB: $68.07 (Hero)
BN: $50.00
Preflop
($0.75)
Hero is BB with
J
Q
, ,
Think this is mixed strat between raise - prefer raising given pop fold too much and this player looked like he was over cbetting
Flop
($3.00)
T
2
8
,
Turn
($7.56)
T
2
8
T
,
Floated, felt villan under bluffs river a ton when the baord pairs as I'm not folding Tx so i can bet river small when he checks and exploit him
River
($16.18)
T
2
8
T
Q
, ,
Final Pot
SB
wins and shows three of a kind, Tens.
BB lost and shows two pair, Queens and Tens.
SB wins $60.43
Rake is $0.75
BB lost and shows two pair, Queens and Tens.
SB wins $60.43
Rake is $0.75
So here I'm really struggling to find any bluffs in my range to balance my flushes and FH's. Felt this combo was good with blocking QT and a flush blocker. However I feel villans range is very strong so I probably want a pure value range to exploit him? Or maybe a hyper polarised overbet shoving range to fold out his weak flushes, straights and Tx?
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Don't bluff this, it's way too strong to give up all that showdown value to turn into a bluff. Either you think villain underbluffs here and you just fold your range except flushes and trips or you think it's worth being balanced here and you want to call this and pull your bluffs from your missed straight draws, 8x and pocket pairs with a diamond. I can't really tell you which option to take (although don't trust small stakes players to fold high absolute value hands ever) but I don't think there's a good exploitative reason for bluff this ahead of the other stuff.
As a more general takeaway on the river for your bluffs EV = folds - SDV so as you can see when you start bluffing stuff with higher showdown value the EV of your bluff goes down. In this example for that sizing I don't think it's crazy to consider that they could be block betting a queen for this sizing because after the turn call your range is very light on Tx and if they think they're not going to see a raise from your trips then I think this might be ok as it also gains EV from losing a smaller bet to your semi-nutted hands. I'm not entirely sure that's right or you can expect villain to be doing it at a very high frequency but it does make some difference. Also even if they don't get to bet those hands for value calling something like this is important to maintaining the equilibrium so that they can't (i.e keep them behind the calling range rather than allowing them to bet more merged). Really though that's all a bit irrelevant compared to the fact that top pair is pretty close to the top of a fairly capped range.
Seems inconsistent with your line on the river to raise him because you think hes bluffing. Your hand has a lot of show down value and actually works quite well as a bluff catcher. Would be more inclined to raise pure value exploitative here for a size that they will call
This is consistent, if he under-bluffs river it means he check folds river a ton. Personally I think this is massively under-bluffed on the river but depends on assumptions I guess.
If someone underbluffs it means you get less folds when you raise so if your line of thinking is villain underbluffs here then the exploit is not just to call less but also to raise less as a bluff because you're more likely to run into a value hand.
Sorry i should have said it seems inconsistent with your line to raise him as you think he has few bluffs. You are raising into an uncapped range in a spot where you think villain doesn't bluff. I get that you think he will x/f a ton on the river but your exploit should be to bet when he checks, not raise when he bets
Yeah very true, thanks for the feedback man. I guess I was thinking I could fold out enough of his value range but yeah I guess actually the exploit is more simple, just raise value fold this combo. Do you think it's worth hyper polarising an all-in bet though? Then I might get enough fold equity from his value range? IMO QJ can't be called so it becomes a bluffing candidate with better blockers than my 8x combo's so if I bluff shove I like this combo.
In General bluffraising halfpot RiverBets big is not a bad Thing, but this board is Pretty underblufft when he Barrels(Triple Barrel, Paired Turn, Flush arrives on River).
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