50NL: Getting c/r on the turn in deep pot
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50NL: Getting c/r on the turn in deep pot
BN: $66.85
SB: $32.35
BB: $66.15
UTG: $117.67
HJ: $108.37
CO: $81.80 (Hero)
SB: $32.35
BB: $66.15
UTG: $117.67
HJ: $108.37
CO: $81.80 (Hero)
50/22/0 over 18 hands
Preflop
($0.75)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
A
A
UTG folds, HJ raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, BN folds, SB folds, BB folds, HJ calls $3
UTG folds, HJ raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, BN folds, SB folds, BB folds, HJ calls $3
Preflop was misplayed. In retrospect I would definately 3bet bigger
Flop
($9.75)
8
2
5
(2 Players)
HJ checks,
Hero bets $8,
HJ calls $8
Turn
($25.75)
8
2
5
4
(2 Players)
HJ checks,
Hero bets $18.75,
HJ raises to $37.50,
Hero raises to $69.30, and is all in
Wasn't hoping for a c/r here. I think he can have all sets and 76 got there. I could still be ahead if he's overplaying some pair. I figured if I want to continue with the hand it's best to get the money in now.
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Easy fold unless you have a read that this villain is capable of bluffing in that spot.. I'm basing this mostly on just general player pool tendencies at micro stakes. If he was going to bluff you it would be on the flop.. Think about it, wouldn't you prefer making the x/r on flop when it's not so damn big raise you need to do compared to on the turn.. He just wants to get the money in without risking you check back river.
I also would like to add that just based on these stats he hasn't shown much aggression with raises.. he hasn't raised (3b) preflop and his VPIP and PFR has a big gap.. And if a passive players performs this big x/r on turn after x/c flop in a 3b pot.. It should ring some alarms.
I think that the Baluga Theorem applies here: “You should strongly re-evaluate the strength of one-pair hands in the face of a raise on the turn.” You don't know anything about this opponent therefore should assume that he is generally passive like most opponents below 200nl.
Its easy to marry hands but its hard to divorce them....u should open a deck of cards pull out two aces and practice folding them....I get that he flatted a 3bet oop but when he c/r the turn what story is he trying to tell u...theres no value in him doing this w/o a made hand cuz given the stack sizes he cant bluff u...its a bad call and even worse shove...aa is the best pair u can get but remember it is only 1 pair....
Oh damn, I just realized that it was a minraise from him. Minraise almost always = The Nuts! Couple that with the fact that it is a check-minraise = muck that shit quick!
Granted its only 18 hands, but I think just looking at his 55/22/0 stays tells you he's loose passive and he's going to be passive unless he has a nuttish hand...
yeah im with everyone else, likely fish min check raising the turn when there are a ton of made hands (dont forget A3 as well, fish love them some wheel draw) = turbo fold for me. I think if he had a hand like 99 or whatever, that hed be more likely to just ship not minraise.
beside the fact that there is tons of hands that beat you, you should ALWAYS ask yourself what hands could villain turn into a bluff by raising....
And beside random OC-floats there is basically nothing in villains rang that hasnt a pair or better and i highly doubt that villain turns any pair into a bluff here....and XR pure air here - incluing BDFD - (oh wait...maybe 79?) would be pretty suicidal vs your perceived range....so agree on snapfolding....
Given stack sizes which is deep-ish, I would much rather 3bet pre bigger probably 10BB to 15BB. I say this because I see you compensating on flop and turn by making your cbets larger. As played on turn, yikes, this is a tough spot because he could have KK/QQ/76s/sets/A8cc/A2cc/A3s. The fact that he didn't 4bet pre makes me think that he wouldn't play KK/QQ this way. You gave him a very good odds to flat pre so I have to believe his range equals strength on turn as in something speculative which binked big on either street. Your cbet sizes on flop and turn gives a little or no illusion of FE.
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