50NL: delayed cbet in 4bet pot

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50NL: delayed cbet in 4bet pot

BN: $133.60
SB: $22.25
BB: $193.07
UTG: $68.24 (Hero)
HJ: $100.31
CO: $68.07
Preflop ($0.75) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt A Q
Hero raises to $1.50, HJ folds, CO raises to $5.25, BN folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero raises to $12, CO calls $6.75
villain is 23/18/6, 8% 3bet vs EP
Flop ($26.25) J K 9 (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks
This is not a flop I want to be cbetting to much. Too much of his range connects here. I plan on c/f this hand.
Turn ($26.25) J K 9 8 (2 Players)
Hero bets $13.75, CO calls $13.75
When he checks back I put him on some medium strength hand like KQs/QJs or maybe air that is giving up. I decide that it's possible to get him off it if I bet turn and river here. I think I can still have AK/AA while he is less likely to have them.
River ($53.75) J K 9 8 2 (2 Players)
Hero bets $42.49, and is all in
With the bdfd coming in it's more likely he is going to fold his medium strength hands. However, at the same time he can still have a few flushes. Not sure if I should bluff here. Maybe with the As in my hand?

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Mushmellow 11 years, 1 month ago

I don't play much six max but I think this is a fold preflop. Since you open UTG, CO 3bet range is going to have your AQ crushed. What's your sample size on that 8% stat? Is it really a large enough sample in that specific spot to be able to call here or get in for value?

On the other streets, I don't know what to do. I'm sure some of the better players will be able to help you on this one though. But he can't be that strong since he checked back on the flop right? But you can't be that strong either because I feel like all your value hands would be cbetting that flop, so he will probably call you down here pretty light especially after he calls turn.

Fyrsten 11 years, 1 month ago

The flop check is a mistake imo. You got a merged range so a flop check destroys your range a bit to Ax hands, most QQ and Kx would bet same for sets.

TheChosenOne 11 years, 1 month ago

What's your plan by betting this flop? I don't think we have enough FE to just one and done cbet here. So we would have to fire multiple barrels if we cbet here.

ItsToothPasteISwear 11 years, 1 month ago

I think your logic make sense it just seems whenever I do this they never fold anything, so I dunno. Its obviously way better with the As in your hand.

What is your UTG open, and what do you put his call 4 bet range as?

TheChosenOne 11 years, 1 month ago
Around 11% open from UTG. Not sure what he's calling here. Didn't expect him to flat too often. If it's CO vs BTN he can have hands like AQs/KQs. In this scenario maybe JJ/QQ/AK and who knows what else. Maybe some speculative suited hands because we're a little bit deeper. But if he's only flatting JJ/QQ/AK my play is not good, since he will have AK the majority of the time.


ItsToothPasteISwear 11 years, 1 month ago

thats really tight from UTG, so I would assume his 3 bet for value is really narrow if hes aware of that, would make sense for him to then not shove something like AK/QQ. He 3 bet it, then realized he cant really shove them this deep vs your range, so called. 

RaoulFlush 11 years, 1 month ago

hmmm...I think giving up these kind of boards in a 4bet pot is reasonable...maybe cbetting with BDFD with the plan on shoving turns pretty light....but this board smashes his flatting range like vodka my stomach in the morning.....

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