50NL: Action in 3b Pot 300bbs deep vs aggressive (gto?)
Posted by th04
Posted by
th04
posted in
Low Stakes
50NL: Action in 3b Pot 300bbs deep vs aggressive (gto?)
SB: $157.46 (314.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $175.79 (351.6 bb)
UTG: $50.50 (101 bb)
MP: $51.50 (103 bb)
CO: $60.72 (121.4 bb)
BTN: $55.97 (111.9 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Ah Kd
4 folds, SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $4.50
Flop: ($12) Ad 3d 2c (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, SB raises to $27, Hero calls $19
Turn: ($66) Th (2 players)
SB bets $36, ???
Handconverter is not working for me. Villain is a regular, as I am. He is quite aggressive, however I haven't seen him being totally out of line. Got roughly 1,8k hands on him and on that small sample is is more aggressive than the typical regular, raises more flops IP and check-raises more.
He opens roughly 40% BvB and I expect him to defend quite a bit, he really is not folding too much against 3-bets so far (got him at 21% overall fold to 3bet, what I'm sure is just a samplesize issue, but surely he is not nitty when it comes to defending).
What is our turn- and riverline? I know that there is certainly value in checking back and maybe it would have been better, but as played, what the hell do we do now?
I have one more question. Just for arguments sake, let's assume for one moment that villain is going to barrel this turn with a 100% frequency. What would be our plan for the hand? I realize this is a somewhat dumb question to ask, but I have problems wrapping my head around that we should go to the river 100% of the time and then call ~62% of the time. I'm just not all that thrilled stacking off 300bbs deep with TPTK in order to not be exploited. I used 100% frequency, because in my experience the vast majority of aggressive players what check-raise a flop like that are barreling the turn with a super high frequency. They decide that I'm having TP and I cannot call down.
Loading 4 Comments...
Mhmm, the more I think about this hand, the more I get confused. I got something stuck in my head what goes like this “defending x% of the sake of defending may only compound a mistake”, or that his range is actually stronger than mine because he has more sets. I also don't understand who is actually going to make a profit if we both were to play a balanced strategy.
I tried to come up with some ranges with what I would cbet the flop for value and I got something like: 12 combos of AQ, 12 combos of AK, 4 combos of random twopairs, 1 (probably 0) combos of straights and 3 combos of sets. How do I build my defense vs a flopcheckraise? Do I have to defend 71% of my entire flop betting range (including airballs) or the 71% of my value range? I've read very mixed things about this and I think that I should be defending 71% of my valuerange. However, that leaves me wondering because if we defend only 71% of our valuerange, but bluff this board a little bit too much then we're folding way more than the 57% he needs me to.
Also, obviously AK, AQ and twopairs for that matter are only bluffcatchers and AA and 54s are close to the nuts. Do AA and 54s count as defend hands or not? I guess what I'm trying to say is if we can add additional bluffcatchers because AA and 54s are so strong and are ahead of villains range.
How do we account for FDs in villains bluffing range? I imagine I should call down much less when villains bluffs actually have equity.
if u not sure how to play deep, then sitout and buyin for 100bb
as u said, u dont want GII TPTK 300bb which is obv , so what can u do then? -> potcontrol F by checking or just calling if he bet...u dont want GII, and if its gonna be raised OTF then u can face allin by R easily.... even if he bets now OTT only 20$ he can shove R for pot or less than a pot...which just leaves u in disgusting guessing spot , and if he is balanced in that spot, then it doesnt matter if u call or fold since EV of both would be 0 since he did alrdy calculations for u
also u have Kd which makes hand even better to potcontrol/call since u block nutFDs and u can hit bdnutfd..
pretty sick spot. obv if you fold anywhere you are overfolding by a huge margin in a gto sense but that could be fine depending on how differently they play deep. I think most regs tend to play a bit more straight up deeper (i.e. they have no problem barreling off 100bb as a bluff but this deep they slow down). He has all the sets and 54 is probably in his range for defending this deep, maybe less so oop. He also has a decent amount of FDs.
Basically you have to call/call riv if you are both balanced but considering this is 300bb deep he probably is skewed more towards value and away from bluffs which means...you probably have to call anyway bc you're at the absolute top of your bluff catch range. You can probably get away from it on diamond rivers.
OTOH you can make a case for folding somewhere (probably not the turn) even tho it seems really awful to call turn/fold blank riv if you think the majority of regs are almost never barreling off 300bb with a bluff. gross spot either way.
You should think through the next streets because if you call the flop x/raise and get confused on an obvious bet OTT you shouldn't have called the flop in the first place. He is betting his entire range OTT after x/raising the flop so you should think about this OTF, before calling his raise. His line looks extremely strong...if he is capable of doing that with a draw, I could see a reason for calling down if turn and river brick. Otherwise, its a fold OTF because he is only wrapping hands that dominate yours. His big sizing OTF could mean something, maybe he is trying to maximize fold equity...but it could be to extract the max too, so you should have clear reads when taking his sizing into consideration.
Be the first to add a comment