[50NL 6max] Flopped Flush OOP - Line Check
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[50NL 6max] Flopped Flush OOP - Line Check
CO: $51.56
BN: $110.09
SB: $56.30
BB: $57.43 (Hero)
UTG: $37.68
I'm wondering what you think the best course of action is on all streets post-flop. Here's my thought process.
Villain is seeming like a rec. he's running 34/21 with 7% 3bet over a couple hundred hands. No specific reads.
Flop ---> XR and XC are both viable options. XR is a bit too aggressive at this point as if we face a flop 3-bet, we're in a very tough spot. So I slightly prefer XC. Plus we will have a lot of hands that need protection and 86s does a good job protecting our checking range.
Turn ---> At this point, is there any option other than to raise when we face a bet this small? It's setting up a really poor SPR for the river to get the money in from the IP player's perspective. His bet looks weak and so from his mind, it might induce some spazzes from me when I have As or a hand like 8s8x etc. So right now I strongly prefer XR and build pot as we can be perceived to have a lot of weaker hands that are turning themselves into a bluff vs a weak looking bet that looks like it's trying to buy a cheap check on the river.
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River ---> With a ~1.8:1 SPR, does anyone prefer a different sizing? Perhaps 3/4psb? To me shove or check seems like the only option given how the hand played out. The Ad is not a great card in the sense that my AsX bluffs now have showdown value and are probably never shoving. So we have less pure bluffs.
Thoughts on all streets?
As an extra,
How would you play a set vs the same sizings from villain?
Thanks
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Could develop a leading range on this flop if btn is a weaker player and also because your range has the most flushes so can withstand a leading range. As played, I'd just be unbalanced and raise this flop Vs a rec as he's always continuing with As and any Kx. River I think if you take this line you need to go smaller to get calls from his AsX and some Kx as I'd expect him to bet bigger with sets
Vs rec / small sizing, raising should be fine otf.
Hey round2
How come you stopped posting in your journal? I enjoyed the read.
Flop is good and your logic is mostly good, with the exception of this sentence
If we only raise cbets with hands which have an easy decision vs a 3bet we would be raising incredibly tight. The average player will also not find enough random 3bets in this spot for us to really have to worry about those. That being said I do believe calling is the play here.
Turn is wp, very much favoring raising with our flushes vs this sizing.
River I think is just a little too large, unless we have some kinda read that opponent caps himself with this turn sizing. When we get to the flop 3way I don't think he just goes off betting with random Kx or weaker pairs, so our turn xr should be isolating a pretty strong range. Additionally, from an exploitative standpoint, a lot of our turn bluffs will be Asx, so on this specific river it's gonna be hard for villain to talk himself into thinking we are overbluffing. Anywhere from 75%-pot seems good to me.
Cheers.
Hey Krzysztof Slaski ,
Thanks for the detailed reply, I agree with all your points.
As far as my journal, I'll likely start posting again eventually. I just got lazy with it and haven't updated it in a while lol
Edit - as far as river is concerned, do you like OB jamming if river is not Ax but is a brick (2d for example)?
As an exploit I think jamming non Ax rivers probably fine, I doubt in theory we would be using that sizing. Again, basically because I don't think BTN does a whole lot of non flush or fd betting on the flop
Your line is pretty strong, so unless you are facing a guy who overcalls, a smaller bet is better, 18-20ish $
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