4bet pot ep vs co
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4bet pot ep vs co
UTG (Hero): $15.02 (150 bb)
MP: $11.22 (112 bb)
CO: $11.23 (112 bb) (33% fold to 4bet 10hands sample)
BU: $19.67 (197 bb)
SB: $9.01 (90 bb)
BB: $7.45 (75 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.21) Hero is UTG with A:hearts: T:hearts:
Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, CO 3-bets to $1, 3 players fold, Hero 4-bets to $2.40, CO calls $1.40
Flop: ($5.01) 6 spades 7diamonds 9hearts (2 players)
Hero bets $2.39, CO calls $2.39
Turn: ($9.79) 9 diamonds (2 players)
Hero bets $10.22 (all-in), CO folds
What should be a good 4bet range?
I use some times hands like ats kqx a2-3-4s in my 4bet range vs people who over3betting but I don't have exactly ranges of which hands should I 4bet with
Do you think the bluff was good?
I have all the qq kk and aa in my range and I want to put pressure also I dont like the 1/3 in this board texture OOP and with my hand equity I decide to fast play with 1/2 and shove on a safe Turn
I expect him to call hands like kqs jjs QQs Akx Aqs (i cant see other hands in his 4bet calling range help me with that plz)
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4betting is good. flop is good, turn should be 1/3 bet instead of shove. The board is pretty static given the hands that interact with it are mostly folded by IP at some point before the turn.
Not sure about turn sizing though...
Blocking T9h is great here i guess, but still some 78s and so on in villains range that might fold vs a shove, but call 1/3.
Expect TT+ to be inelastic to sizing...
So you plan to 1/3 and shove most rivers?
RaoulFlush T9h is already blocked by the board, think that's what makes this combo of ATs the worst one
Oops...you are right...
I believe small sizings would be better here because of CO's nut advantage. We have and advantage on the more middling part of the range but when it comes to top 10% CO just owns us, specially when he has 3 bet or fold strategy that will force him to call all the pp's that hit a set there.
Not solving this hand, just put some ranges into flopzilla to confirm this, might solve it later if discussions gets interesting.
I'm still awful at 4bet pots but this texture just seems awful for you. You do have more QQ+ but he will have all the sets and, depending on player, some 2pairs and pairs + straight draw so I think 2 big bets might make his life too easy. Won't go into detail as I'm not confident enough here. I guess the T is really good but even then...
About 4betting you really have to take position into account. A normal 4bet range for me there would be QQ+, AQo at a small/medium frequency (as a "bluff"), AKo with some small % flatting to not make calling range too weak, then AKs, QKs and some KJs. Also JJ and TT at like 50% frequency. Finally some Axs, AJ, AT and A5, not at a very high frequency. Take some care with the word bluff, as the hands that I categorized as such will still have tons of equity, is more like "bottom of range that has better blocker effects that we 4bet to not make our range too strong/face-up". Words like "bluff" and "strong/face up" are not 100% adequate here but I think are a good way to introduce the ideas, just keep that in mind.
Thank you all for your answers
zinom1 The 1/3 bet OTT really troubles me to be honest. I can understand why you want me to bet1/3, for sure in this static board which hands will call the 1/2 OTF (TTs, JJs QQs 88s)
but I have an assumption based on the player pool. At NL10 is rare to see a call to 4bet and when you see it is mostly from lags, in this specific spot I play against a reg (NL10 reg) I assume that the people who call 4bets in this stakes are not willing to fold on the first barrel most of the time so they keep their range "wide" with backdoor fds and overcards (AK AQ KQ) for that reason I don't know how effective will be a 1/3 bet OTT but sounds completely reasonable from a gto perspective.
Mudkip Thanks for the recommended ranges I have also these hands in my mind when I'm thinking a 4bet bluff the thing is the frequencies so I think I have to start using my rng for 4bet bluffing more often than I did with 15-20% frequency
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