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4bet pot +200 How to play KK turn and riv vs flop check?

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4bet pot +200 How to play KK turn and riv vs flop check?

Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BN: $50.00
SB: $113.15 (Hero)
BB: $50.00
UTG: $129.62
MP: $36.14
CO: $54.33
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is SB with K K
UTG raises to $1.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $6.00, BB folds, UTG raises to $12.75, Hero calls $6.75
Flop ($26.00) Q 8 3
Hero checks, UTG checks
Turn ($26.00) Q 8 3 8
Hero bets $8.15, UTG calls $8.15
River ($42.30) Q 8 3 8 6
Hero bets $13.29, UTG calls $13.29
Final Pot SB wins and shows two pair, Kings and Eights.
UTG wins and shows two pair, Kings and Eights.
SB wins $33.44 UTG wins $33.44
Rake is $2.00

Villian over 600 hands was playing 27/20/5, and the previous 4bet he showed down was QQ (not sure of situation). Preflop he is representing like AA, some Axs bluffs maybe KK, QQ, and AK if he is that aggressive, but in general I feel that KK, QQ, AK get flatted a lot, especially in the zoom pool. If those are his assumptions of his range, how do we precede on the turn once he checks back? what kind of hands are we putting him on here? is he checking back AA, KK scared of QQ? Does he have QQ? Does he have AK? I'm confused. Any ideas of what our turn action should be here would be appreciated. thank you.

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NickHalden 7 years, 7 months ago

He could be checking back AA for pot control, as V don't want to be check/raised in a 200bb deep 4bet pot OTF.
If I make that assumption OTF I would probably check again OTT (not sure).

I think in general tendences of the pool, this deep, villain would have an extreme polarized range AA & bluff

Definitely not stacking off 200bb preflop here.

Paid_To_Laid 7 years, 7 months ago

Thank you.
If the turn checks through, what hands do you expect to get to the river with? In addition to that what sort of bet sizing are we looking to use on the river theoretically, and exploitative vs his range?

NickHalden 7 years, 7 months ago

At this stack deep our 3bet range SB vs EP is very narrow.

Honestly I think our only combo would be KK because we are always betting QQ for value OTT.

Villain could have more bluffy hands as he can take advantage of position, sizing, I think something between 55/65% should work

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