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4bet calls online midstakes

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4bet calls online midstakes

Hi folks

Just looking to talk some strategy about 4bet calls from various positions. I bought GTO+ a month ago and have been messing around with it since then, but only recently took a look at GTO-Wizard. Plugged in some 4bet spots, noticed that it is calling more often with 99 than with TT in some spots and already I am very confused. Can someone explain why this is?

Also, in terms of more exploitatively, how do you construct your 4bet calling range? Particularly on RIO I tend to play exploitatively, because I know they can't collect stats. I 4bet bluff disproportionately with A5s, for example. In the RIO context, are you happy always folding hands like ATs to a 4bet? Do you mix in some flats with KK in position? Curious to hear your thoughts. Thanks.

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CatorMan 4 years ago

I am going to take a stab at these and hopefully someone much better than me can come in and correct me. My guess for 99 being better than TT, is with TT we block JT/QT/KT/AT which are 4bet "bluffs" (equity bluffs) but when we have 99 they can have all of those hands? So when we have TT a higher % of there range is overpairs than with 99.

The folding / calling ATs to 4bet completely depends on the position. Vs wider range spots I would say ATs is generally a call, but this depends on sizings used as well. On a site like RIO I would start to over 4bet because it is going to very difficult for people to know what you are doing this and generally population under defends vs 4bet in the first place. So I would take a GTO 4betting range and just expand it X%.

braintempest 4 years ago

Solid advice. Thanks. I think part of my discomfort in 4bet call spots is really just because my edge goes way down when ranges are narrow and obviously I'm supposed to have very low equity anyways, hence the good price on most calls. I do feel overall though like it should generally be slightly easier to play close to GTO in these smaller SPR hands and obviously mistakes matter more in them, so I would like to feel like an absolute wizard in them.

CatorMan 4 years ago

Like you say in the 4bet pots, it is easier to think through all of the combos in your range because your range is much tighter. It is sometimes I find very difficult to do the same for villain, because by the time a 3bet, 4bet and then a call have gone in people ranges tend to have trended quite heavily away from GTO.

A good think to do, would just be to mark every 4bet pot you get into. Run it in PIO and go through them all, good thing is narrow ranges and low SPR they run pretty quick!

Goodluck!

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