4b pot AK OOP
Posted by colombian20
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Low Stakes
4b pot AK OOP
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players)
BN: $40.82
SB: $25.22 (Hero)
BB: $60.92
UTG: $25.00
MP: $33.33
CO: $58.61
SB: $25.22 (Hero)
BB: $60.92
UTG: $25.00
MP: $33.33
CO: $58.61
Preflop
($0.35)
Hero is SB with
K
A
, , , ,
Flop
($9.50)
3
8
3
, ,
Turn
($21.00)
3
8
3
A
, ,
River
($86.14)
3
8
3
A
Q
Hi guys this hands is probably standard, but i want to know how to play the flop, c-bet? check/call? check/fold? i have no reads.
if i play check/call and i dont hit anything OTT is a check/fold?
if i c bet OTF?what im going to do OTT if a blank comes?
Thanks for ur help.
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I think playing AKoff in SB that agressive its a mistake considering he 3 bets...
When you 4 bet and he calls the range will give you QQ KK AA, knowing this and i think the best play here is check/fold the flop, dont have a positive equity to call... anyone agrees?
Im really not sure about the flop, but I'll either cbet or x/f. This is a situation that gives me a lot of trouble too. Preflop and turn are fine.
What range do you gave him for 3bet/calling preflop ? As a default, JJ, QQ, AK and maybe AQs would make sens to me. This is a BvB situation and he is IP, but im not sure pleople at 25nl will go too out of line and call like AJs, KQs, TT, 99 in this spot. Thoughts ??
I think he never puts you on any A type hands that would call the flop that's why he decided to ship on the turn thinking you would fold our perceived PP hands. I think you'd have to check/shove turn however for this to be profitable. What would you do on the turn if no A or K hit?
That's only assuming the V is capable of doing that. Say the V is super nit would you play the same. He's probably never bluffing this spot but I can imagine any thinking player would play this way.
I prefer a c-bet on this board. I think he can have a lot of suited broadways, the obvious QQ,JJ and some slowplayed AA,KK. He might also defend some suited aces, we can't know for sure.
What we definitely do know is that except for his overpairs, his range doesn't do well on this flop. If he continues with some BDFDs (which I don't expect he will do too often) then you can still expect him to fold about 50-60% of the time on the flop. On good turn cards (T,9,7,6,5,4,2) I would continue to barrel and expect him to fold a decent number of hands that may peel the flop (you also apply some pressure to JJ,QQ which will be afraid of AA,KK which you block) like the aforementioned BDFDs.
You expect vilain to have a lot of non-premium hands in this spot ? I mean, if he has half the AA combos (as a trap), QQ, JJ, AK, AQs in his range, the PP part which is also the value part is like 13-14 combos / 33-34 combos (41% of his range). I dont know if we can add many Axs hands/suited broadways/PPs to that.
OTF, I think he is likely to peel a lot with his PPs and A high hand with at least a bdfd, so if we cbet the flop, I think we have to shove the turn or to x/c a shove (if we think he float the flop with intention of shoving turn a lot). If we shove, we are risking 15 to win 21, so we need him to fold 42% to make a +EV shove. If the range I gave vilain is correct and my assumptions are good, we are breaking even with a cbet + a shove vs his range.
Ofc I can't know for sure, but I wouldn't necessarily fold everything but premiums BvB vs a 4bet since we are IP.
how wide would you call the 4bet, given the bvb IP situation ?
Probably something like 88-JJ/QQ, KQs, AKo, AQs. I'd try to gii w/ KK, AA, AKs most of the time. If the sizing was smaller and he was an aggressive 4bettor I'd consider flatting AJs and 5betting small w/ KQo/AJo, AA, KK but I'd need a read that he folds a lot (which luckily most people do at 25NL).
"I think playing AKoff in SB that agressive its a mistake considering he 3 bets...
When you 4 bet and he calls the range will give you QQ KK AA, knowing this and i think the best play here is check/fold the flop, dont have a positive equity to call... anyone agrees?"
This is pretty ridicoulus imo. Even on this stakes you should gii with AK pre here all day...
Flop I think you can't go to wrong as long as you don't x/f... If we mix our AK combos here, would it make sense to bet the ones with the BDFD or to check the ones with the BDFD?
hero cant gii pre as vilain call the 4bet..
what is so aggro with his line ??? he x/c flop and x/c turn.. doesnt seem aggro at all to me
I quoted what the first poster said and disagreed with it ;).
And by gii I mean he 4bets with the intention of calling, instead of just flatting or something, wich was mentioned in the quoted answer.
Oh and is there a quote function or something here :D?
the 4th button from the right is the quote fonction
ok so ima comment your post again, but I miss understood the first time !
In a bvb situation, oop, Im gii all day with AK ! Vs an UTG raiser, it might not alway be the case. In general, im not happy gii vs an utg raise/4bettor..
cool!
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