4b bet pot nl25
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4b bet pot nl25
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players)
BN: $40.85
SB: $25.41
BB: $7.79
UTG: $35.18 (Hero)
MP: $25.68
CO: $60.79
SB: $25.41
BB: $7.79
UTG: $35.18 (Hero)
MP: $25.68
CO: $60.79
Preflop
($0.35)
Hero is UTG with
A
K
, , , , ,
Flop
($12.85)
K
4
9
,
Turn
($20.95)
K
4
9
Q
, ,
River
($41.37)
K
4
9
Q
8
, ,
I just don't know anymore. As soon as I saw a Q on the turn, I knew it was going downhill.
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Definitely close. Kind of boils down to your 4b range here. Global 4b frequency in these pools isn't going to go too far beyond AA-QQ, AK, little AQs and some KQs.
We get to turn with AA(6)/KK(3)/QQ(0-3 combos) and KQ if you 4b it. I would continue betting turn with all of them on the Q or J turns. I think we can potentially fold this combo since we block stuff like KJdd and KTdd which are worse value combos that could take this line (essentially we dominate more with other combos of AK).
I think there is also some significance that he gets to turn with both 99 and JTs at this stack depth (meaning he will continue wider pre).
With this stack size, I definitely don't want to play offsuit AK oop in a huge pot. Just makes life difficult. Maybe that's weak but I find it troublesome. So my preflop action would be just to flat. As played you see exactly the kind of spot you get in otherwise: overcommitted with just TP. When will we ever be comfortable in this spot to go broke? C/f turn seems kinda week but looking at stack sizes, the commitment question is definitely raised on the turn already. I think an average players range has you crushed here. Preflop he doesn't have the odds to profitably set mine or play a lot of drawing hands. The temptation is there surely but I doubt that players on this level have the postflop skills to pull it off often enough. I could be wrong about it of course. That leaves mostly AA-QQ, AK. We block some but I really don't see a lot of A5s semibluff hands bluffjamming river. We beat nothing but air and air is tough to pull off.
Dont limp AK UTG
He likely did not suggest to limp, but to flat the 3bet (instead of 4b).
That makes sense. I would normally do that too I think. Mentally, wanting to always play big pots might have to do with wanting to move up quicker.
This hand is absolutely disgusting and Snowie wants to FOLD THE TURN would is super exploitative but the correct play when you look at ranges here.
First off preflop is not a automatically 4bet as the margin between calling/4betting is small enough such that if you think your opponent is not 3betting optimally and leaning towards a tigher range, then calling is the best play.
When you get to this flop+turn with AK you've got to realize if you put your entire stack in you are only chopping or losing. And when you are bluff catching to hope for a chop you ought to be folding.
Snowie thinks BTN only shows up with KK/QQ here so you beat nothing and thats why it wants to fold turn. It prefers to check flop for these very reason but you can get away with a small cbet here as played to get value from QQ and worst hands that speculated deep. But once the Q turn hits you are absolutely dead.
Your just hoping the guy has AK as well and is playing it as bad as you are (which using the same reasoning above, shouldnt be happy reaggressing and putting the rest of his stack in either). The next hands he is valuing are AA(slowplay)/KK/QQ. Even with AA he shouldn't be wanting to put in his entire stack this deep for the same reasons as if he has AK so with that and your blockers to A/K, BTN is only taking this line with QQ.
The counter argument to folding is only if BTN plays this aggressively with the rest of the 6 AK combos and only value 3 QQ combo here because they always 4bet AA/KK preflop. Then you are chopping 2/3 of the time and getting the ~4-1 odds to call river. But this variation is so conditional and less likely than the one in the previous paragraph so folding somewhere the correct play here.
Any specific reason someone would be using Snowie here in 2022 when there are things like GTOWizard and PokerScientist on the market?
im too stupid and lazy to learn any new programs
snowie ui is ez and hand analysis is good
any of these other programs i have no idea how to even get started
lol Exploit Warrior :)
I just saw that gto+, flopzilla and a little creativity a good combination is. I forgot how the program is called we used to use 10 years ago. That's all we had lol Flopzilla i believe, just came out when I quitted poker.
i remember when the only software we had was pokerstove and all you can do is calculate equity
That was it Exploit Warrior , pokerstove! .. and then you calculate the EV haha
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