4 bet calling range from SB

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4 bet calling range from SB

Hi guys. I was wondering if you are calling suited connectors from SB vs. a BU 4bet?

I was looking at the preflop bible charts and I was very surprised to see how wide sb is calling with all sorts of suited connectors at 100% frequency.

I can see mixing folds in with all the PP and SC being viable, but calling them at 100% seems like burning money.

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RaoulFlush 4 years, 1 month ago

So this is what preflopguru suggests:

Not too many SCs in the smaller region.

Kuduku 4 years, 1 month ago

This is fine in gto-land where villain's have enough bluffs in their 4bet range but against humans I think it's way too loose. Especially if you're still learning how to play well in 4b pots.
For me a more optimal calling range against humans looks something like this:

I think that you can probably even get away with scrapping QJs-KQs, ATs, and 77 completely.

SpankoPita22 4 years, 1 month ago

Thanks, most charts seem in tune with this but I do trust MMASherdog so I have no idea how he gets away calling so wide. And apparently it's a solver derived range.

HawksWin 4 years, 1 month ago

SpankoPita22 How often are you getting 3b by the SB when you open BTN? My pool 3b SB vs BTN 9.7%. I have less incentive to call vs a range that is that snug.

Most of the GTO ranges are 3 betting this dynamic 15% or so. Some higher stakes guys are getting 3b 20% as BTN vs SB. That is a 50% increase in 3 bets faced in our pools vs the higher stakes pools.

I agree with Kuduku that vs humans or standard low stakes pools, we need to be super sung how we play these spots or we will get destroyed (this is one of many ways to crush redline). This is simply because we are not getting 3b enough.

Now, I will say, 9.7% is a little more reasonable vs the environment I play in since the BTN RFI is only 37%. Most charts are going to start out at @ 45% to 50% RFI from BTN.

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