3bet strategy BB vs BTN
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3bet strategy BB vs BTN
Hi everyone,
I would like to ask you guys some thoughts/strategies for 3betting from BB vs BTN.
first of all, what should be roughly our 3betting frequency there? against normal reg who, say, open 50% button by min-raise and then folds 55% vs 3bets.
I know that from SB we "should" 3bet a linear range, just because our flat-calling range is limited from SB.
Here on BB against min-raise open, we will call a lot of hands, therefore I like calling with bench of broadway hands like KJo, KQs, AJ, stuff like this , not 3bet them to "protect" my calling range and not getting barrelled off easily when flop comes with high cards. (most flops come with high cards i heard somewhere).
Therefore I use a more polarized 3betting range in this situation. (completely different from SB/BTN)
I know some players still 3bet a linear range from BB too and like 3bet a lot of AJ , KQ type of hands because it dominates BTN's opening range.
I'd like to ask what is your personnal strategy there? What can be a good frequency?
Another question, how should our strategy change if button open 3x? 4x? (i saw few regs open 4x weird).
Thanks :)
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I do pray much the same thing. Watch Phil g last vid at 1/2 nl and PLO where he talks about this imo
Getting a better price to defend doesn't mean you need to 3-bet a polarized range in the BB.
Hands like 87s/T9s are good hands to 3-bet because they give you board coverage on boards your opponents won't expect you to hit on. The deeper the stacks, the more improtant this becomes.
I agree with flatting strongish hands to protect your wide range. However, hands like AJs etc. are just too strong to just flat.
KJo/QJo/ATo etc. are definitely defends for me.
And how do you work out a reasonable 3-betting frequency versus a given open?
Against better players i'm not sure where to lump AJ/KQ?
If i'm the player OTB the blinds are tough when:
1. they 3-bet frequently yet seem to hold their own versus 4-betting by either calling or shoving.
2. they check-raise or lead postflop when i'm weak.
From above, to become a better blinds player is to be defending a lot preflop and postflop and attacking weak ranges of your opponent. The hands you mention can serve a dual purpose in this regard.
Chael, if i give you hand like AJ or KQ BB v BTN and the button has a very narrow 4-bet range are you still 3-betting preflop? Are you folding to the (narrow) 4-bet?
Lefort has a good vid on this i think
i constructed my defending range by constructing a total range that i can defend profitably vs a typical btn range. I then took out the top portion of my value range to 3b and added enough of the bottom parts of my range also to 3b to balance that out. (making sure to have hands that cover most boards etc.)
I dont think someone can give you the proper frequency, its up to you to decide what parts of your range work best as a 3b and what parts work better as a flat/ fold.
I then just adjust for different villains (opening range, fold to resteal, 4b range, 3b calling range)
vs different btn raise sizes i dont think it matters that much
What blindhippo writes except that yes btn sizings does matter. Someone opening 3x or even 4x requires you to defend much less.
i constructed my defending range by constructing a total range that i can defend profitably vs a typical btn range.
How did you estimate R? I've been using somewhere around .7 but I really don't know how good that is. For example, did you estimate the R of Q9o? If so, what did you get?
The bigger the raise size pre, the more incentive we have to 3bt or F (we win more money when we 3bt- or 'there's more in the pot to win right away'), and the lower the raise size the more incentive we have to flat (with a higher frequency).
Whether to 3bt linear or polarized depends almost wholly on your opps reaction to the 3bt. A lot of my opps 4bt or F so I have to 3bt polarized- so 3bting AJ, for example, would be a 'waste'. When playing opps who flat 3bts a ton then obv linear is the way to go.
So constructing a range that doesnt take in all these factors is a waste of time. Just see who you're playing against and what their tendencies are and you'll know which course of action is most profitable with the hand you're dealt.
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