[3/5 NL - LIVE] Ace high flush on non-pairing same suit river cards
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[3/5 NL - LIVE] Ace high flush on non-pairing same suit river cards
These spots don't come up that often, but I still think it's important to think through them correctly. Incidentally, for me they came up ~24 hours apart - so my thinking on Hand 1 was still fresh when Hand 2 was evolving (w/ deeper stacks). My feeling about each was very different due to position/stack sizes/player even though both had tricky river cards.
Hand 1: ~$300 Effective
Blinds: $3/$5 | NLHE 9-handed
UTG: $300
BB: $550 (Hero)
Villain is A-B-C regular with very low bluffing frequency, probably close to 0% when bet to as opposed to being checked to.
Preflop ($8)
Hero was dealt QcTd
3 players limp, Hero checks BB
Flop ($20)
Kc 7d 4c
Checks through
Turn ($20)
Ac
Hero bets $20, only UTG calls
River ($60)
2c
Hero bets $75, UTG shoves for $205 more
If we think villain is incapable of shoving as a bluff over a strong lead, is there even a "range" to think about for him here? If river had paired the board with a club, and we both took the same line this would be a trivial fold against him. If this spot is also a trivial fold or close to one, what sort of pot odds would we consider calling if he was even shorter with his stack?
Hand 2: ~$850 Effective
Blinds: $3/$5 | NLHE 9-handed
UTG +1 : $1000
HJ: $80
Button: $850 (Hero)
Villain is unknown recreational player - he won a large pot in an overpair vs top pair situation where he shoved turn for more than a pot-sized bet and was called.
Preflop ($8)
Hero was dealt Ad4d
UTG+1 raises to $20, HJ calls, Hero calls
Flop ($65)
3d 9d 7h
UTG+1 checks, HJ shoves for $60, Hero raises to $125, UTG+1 calls
Turn ($375)
8d
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $175, UTG+1 calls
River ($725)
6d
UTG+1 shoves - $530 to hero
I am unable to assign a thought process to villain here for his line ...
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