2nl - Is too thin to bet river here?

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2nl - Is too thin to bet river here?

Blinds: $0.01/$0.02 (6 Players) BN: $2.74
SB: $1.95
BB: $2.38 (Hero)
UTG: $1.89
MP: $2.00
CO: $2.77
Preflop ($0.03) Hero is BB with 8 K
4 folds, SB raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.04
Flop ($0.12) 8 8 7
SB bets $0.06, Hero calls $0.06
Turn ($0.24) 8 8 7 6
SB bets $0.12, Hero raises to $0.43, SB calls $0.31
River ($1.10) 8 8 7 6 4
SB checks, Hero bets $0.44, SB calls $0.44

Do you think is too thin to bet river here? and about the previous streets how would you play?

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IMURMOMMY 6 years, 7 months ago

Hi man, I was interested in this spot myself so I decided to run it in PIO and help you out. The flop is close and a mixed strategy so it doesn't matter. Just make sure to defend enough (see how much is a call in PIO!). This is super important to learn because most people overfold here and that is very costly. Obviously raising the right hands is important but the biggest leak at 2nl is people playing too straight forward and giving pots to their opponent on the flop.

Given that you raise A8 on the flop, many 8x and 66 your range should play more bluffcatch on the turn and therefore a low raising frequency. You opponent has way more boats and 8x now so you should protect your calling range on the flop.

Once our opponent bets the turn he has 43.6% of the time overpair+, while we have it 23.9% of the time. This is a little bit over half so don't raise a lot! I would personally just simplify here and not have a raising range because of that.

Range explorer for OOP after villain bets turn:

Range explorer for IP after villain bets turn:

This is our response versus the turn bet, as you see calling most 7x, 55, draws and our A high with a gutshot (folding J7 and some Q7 since it blocks his main bluffs like J9, Q9 and so on while obviously we don't fold 79 since even though we block his bluffs we got an open ender so extra equity) :

As played with the turn raise on the river we have a super easy check. We should bet the river for value if we have over 50% equity versus a calling range (actually a little more since we can get bluffraised but that's a minor detail).

If we raise here we have only 27% (!) equity versus his calling range. The difference in a river bet or check is 11 big blinds and therefore would qualify as a massive mistake. Hope that helps you think about ranges more :)

KarateKid 6 years, 7 months ago

Wow, thank you very much man! was awesome answer, thanks!!! Very cool to see the ranges and equity and how pio solver play this spot

IMURMOMMY 6 years, 7 months ago

No problem, I lost so much with crypto recently that I need that free monthly RIO membership next month so I need these likes :)

In all seriousness, hope that explains why solvers can be very good for you, even at 2nl. You will simply improve your understanding of the game quicker I think.

KarateKid 6 years, 7 months ago

yeah, I've seen some guys saying this, the solver can help you go to the right path a lot faster than using pure achism in other simpler tools, wish to have one is what does not lack for me, but unfortunately my bankroll walks very short haha, I hope to get out of this nl2 zoom first and then I'll see if I get the gto+, I saw some guys saying that solvers can help a lot with exploitative strategies too

IMURMOMMY 6 years, 7 months ago

Correct. I understand the bankroll thing but this seems inefficient to me. If you have the option available I would make some money with a different job and use that to speed up your poker process. You can likely make $1k quicker in a different field than playing 2nl so that way you can invest in your poker development and move up :)

TexasFoldUmmm 6 years, 7 months ago

There's no question this is a board texture that you check river on with not even the nut trips. 4 to a straight, flush out, and a paired board. Lol.

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