[25NLZ] 3bet and 3barrel bluff against BVB
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[25NLZ] 3bet and 3barrel bluff against BVB
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players)
BN: $49.53
SB: $33.87 (Hero)
BB: $27.91
UTG: $13.66
MP: $30.54
CO: $24.48
SB: $33.87 (Hero)
BB: $27.91
UTG: $13.66
MP: $30.54
CO: $24.48
Hi, villain is a good regular.
Preflop
($0.35)
Hero is SB with
8
9
, , , ,
Flop
($5.05)
K
5
4
,
What is your cbet strategy on a monotone board in a 3bet pot OOP? We both have nuts but I have a 2-3 % equity advantage.
Turn
($8.25)
K
5
4
7
,
Quite lose 2nd barrel, but I need some OESD or GS to bet time to time to be able to barrel a club OTR.
River
($18.25)
K
5
4
7
2
OTR I feel like I have a big range advantage with the range that I am barrelling OTT, so should use a small sizing to value bet a lot of hands, such as 77, KK, KxQc flushes, nutflushes, etc. Do you agree wih this analysis?
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Agreed if we keep betting ott we should bet river aswell for sure. Sizing wise im thinking between shoving and betting smaller. I might just shove to get some higher clubs to fold
Do you think overbetting 25$ into a pot of 18$ has more ev than betting 1/3rd here? I mean I have no idea which sizing makes sense GTO-wise, but I would guess that 1/3rd is pretty good given that villain does not hold a lot of AcXo preflop, he only has AQ-AJ and sometimes ATo. Otherwise he could have just called 2 streets with a made Ahigh flush, but other than that, his range is pretty capped.
I probably wouldn't shove my AcX OTR as this is a big loss of value imo.
Don't mind betting range here off and barreling turn for sure. Shoving river doesn't make sense with your range as almost all of your bluffs improve. It's nice to have a few hands like this in your bluffing range but because you don't have many I like the small sizing, especially Vs a competent reg.
In terms of your analysis , I'd consider having a X/shoving range on the turn with hands like KK, 77 and AA with no club as they are very likely to bet top pair FDs on the turn and we should be protecting our mid pocket pairs.
Thanks, makes sense to me!
This board i go cbet maybe all time. People dont call here so wide. If he call you he had something. Check turn is option which ı go for. But when you bet turn why we bluff river here? I understand you think he will have hard times with his Kx and low flush and you dont block anything. But hes has so many Ax when he call turn and he can raise you turn when he has set or straights. Just check river and let him take the pot.
flop bet is reasonable, but turn bet is quite marginal. We consider villain will overfold flop, so turn he is arriving with tighter range and aren't folding enough, our hand is low frequency turn bet in pio sims. River ~ shove/bet 1/3, both have similar ev, but your range composition suppose to be different (i believe you bet turn too more often and have more bluffs like this otr).
That being said can bet range flop, give up turn. (If you want something to think about PIO checks turn 80% as oop after range bet flop for 25% size. And when we checked we fold ~50% vs villian turn half pot bet, and ~35-45% vs 1/3 bet. When we bet too often villain bluffcathers suppose to be really +EV (on the river), and he can call more often ott. But it is only to think about, don't need to use on nl25)
I don't see a lot of other combos than 87dd,cc,hh to bet turn and bluff river, so I don't think I am overbluffing with this kind of holding, and neither on the river...
Does PIO bluff other non-clubs holdings such as A6s OTT at higher frequency than 87?
Great, thanks for those calculations! Did you node lock villain's range OTF to get those results or only use equilibrium ranges?
Nope it is bluffing many different hands for low frequency, I'm not sure that strategy is possible to apply.
And haven't locked, I just hovered over what type of hands he is calling vs flop bet. Calling 1 overcard without backdoors (which most players won't call), and preflop ranges wide too. Overall fold vs 1/4 cbet was close to 15-16% (in real life I think we will generate much more fold equity, so his range gonna be tighter)
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