25NL - weak flush
Posted by MungGae
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MungGae
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25NL - weak flush
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players)
BB: $65.19
UTG: $35.70
MP: $25.75
CO: $36.35 (Hero)
BN: $30.14
SB: $12.57
UTG: $35.70
MP: $25.75
CO: $36.35 (Hero)
BN: $30.14
SB: $12.57
Preflop
($0.35)
Hero is CO with
8
7
, , , ,
Flop
($2.35)
Q
J
6
, , ,
Turn
($6.10)
Q
J
6
4
, , , , ,
River
($39.85)
Q
J
6
4
5
, ,
hey guys.
i think c-bet otf and ott is standard. hmm.. villain check raise ott.
he might have 2pair, set, or better flush here.
i doubt that i can fold vs his raise ott.
i think i would fold otr, if another spade comes on the river, except 5s, or make a pair board.
any suggestion?
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I would be really worried on the turn already. You bet twice, BTN calls twice and BB decides to raise. I don't think you beat much if anything from his value range because your perceived range has a lot of flushes.
Given my assumptions your hand is almost a bluffcatcher on the turn, and it's not a spot where people do a ton of bluffraising, I would seriously consider folding on the turn, as tight as it sounds. Once you call the turn, river is an easy fold imo. BB has a lot of possible better flushes, we don't beat anything from his valuerange and bluffs are unlikely imo.
You almost made a straight flush tho :D
thanks for your reply man. if villain just call ott and check-raise otr, do you consider about folding?
I would fold in that case too, pretty much for the same reasons. You wouldn't beat anything from his valuerange and bluffs are unlikely.
OTR your hand is a bluffcatcher, I think yo can still call. If you fold you would be overfolding, because you do block some flushes 98s, 76s, A8s, A7s, K8s, K7s. But he still have the weaker AXss and probably the rest of KXs.
Villain could have AsXx, AsTx(3) As6x(3) AsJx(2), he might do the same with some KT with the Ks.
But I don't think overfolding here is a big mistake either because I really don't see bluffs here very often.
How are we likely to have any opinion when you don't give us any piece of info ? I guess versus a "standard" 25NL reg you shouldn't get to the river here, he is not supposed to have that many bluffs here and I would assume regs are underbluffing those spots more often than not.
I agree with fritzlm. If your opponent was standard reg you should have folded turn .
aamadeo I Wouldnt care about overfolding in this spot .We dont have to play GTO cuz NL25 regs are usually not balanced enough so we can make exploitable fold.
First of all sizings. You have massive leak: betting slighlty over 50% with FD, than betting 70% turn with made hand. That's imo biggest mistake in this hand. Im worried that anyone hasn't written about it.
I bet/fold turn vs BB x/r. I dont know what kind of worse hands can he x/r (23s, 53s? That's 2 combo) especially when you are 140bb deep.
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Changing sizing depending on hand strenght isnt best idea :)
It actually is a great idea in many cases. If your villains aren't observing, you definitely want to bet bigger with your strong hands. And also, with a polarized range, you want to increase your sizing.
On the flop we want to cbet many types of hands whereas on the turn our range is more polarized, and therefore increasing our sizing is the way to go.
Betting the same amount with all the hands everytime is a very bad strategy!
True, but unfortunately on nl25 almost everyone would notice that
Maybe that's true, but Im sure hero havent thought about that and he bets like that on every type of board.
You are overestimating an average NL25 player imo. People rarely care, because the player pool is often so huge. There is no way that anyone can keep track on everyones sizings, it's super hard atleast! And even if someone does that, it's likely that he can't adjust properly.
I'm BF turn - nobody's bluffing here 3way, and I don't expect any worse value hand played like this.
As played, defenitely fold R - this is a better flush almost exlusively. (I know you have a "straight flush", but that's a little too weak in this case :))
Count combos and make your decision that way.
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