25NL Mid pair with FD SB vs BB
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25NL Mid pair with FD SB vs BB
P1(BTN) $7.50 - VP:33 PFR:33 AF: W: STL:100| 3B:0| CB: N:0 Hands:3
Me(SB) $42.99 - VP:25 PFR:15 AF:2.0 W:50|50 STL:50|80 3B:0| CB:100|0 N:4.56 Hands:20
P4(BB) $13.08 - VP:20 PFR:0 AF:2.0 W:67|100 STL:0|0 3B:0| CB:|50 N:13.16 Hands:15
P6(UTG) $42.90 - VP:21 PFR:19 AF:6.5 W:36|67 STL:38|100 3B:10|75 CB:67|100 N:-4.74 Hands:150
Not much history or stats with villain. He did start with a little over half a stack. What is the best play here? In most spots my standard would be to flat since his range for raising preflop is so strong but given that it's blind vs blind I expect villain to raise her some % of the time with air.
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I think pre is pretty close only because the Villain is short stacked and thus you don't have as good of implied odds with this hand. On the flip side, most people fold too much in the BB when facing a raise from the SB.
As played, call the flop raise, I don't see much point in 3-betting. Most players at this level and short stacked are weighted too much toward value in this scenario. But I still think I would call given that you have the flushdraw and hope that my 9 might still be good against some of his raising range (ie 85)
Thanks.
How would you play it on a non club turn and he bets 3/4pot again? Does it become a call with 1/2pot? Do we lead club rivers if we call 1/2 pot turn?
Is an A a scare card for us if we call?
If we hit our club on the turn do we check or lead? If he jams on a club I don't think we can fold but we wouldn't be very happy with calling either right? What is our play when he checks back a club turn?
Do you have the read that SB vs BB flop raises are still value heavy? I def agree that flop raises in other positions are value heavy but SB vs BB I feel it becomes more bluff heavy. I'm not 100% confident on this read or anything though.
Cant' say for sure, it requires too many assumptions about the Villain which I'm not comfortable making as I don't play these levels or much anymore these days. I'd put it in CREV and look at how often the Villain needs to be bluffing. But if the villain was balanced with his bluffs (a big if), I think it would likely be a call on the turn for either bet size because not only do you have the flushdraw but you also block some of his flop value raising range.
I always check here because this card helps the Villain's range usually more than ours. He'll have more club draws as a % of his range than we'll have. And the club draws that we'll have often are the nuts which don't need to worry about being outdrawn. If he jams on a club turn, it's a pretty gross spot I'd imagine. When he checks back a club turn, I'd bet relatively large on the river, and I'd remember that I'd need to balance my range by turning some made hands with a backdoor flush which didn't get there into bluffs.
I can't say for sure about this level, but I'm pretty confident that this rule is true in general about short stack fishes, but I haven't looked into it specifically BvB.
Pre is fine, call flop, check call a turn 6,7,T,J. Lead big on an 8 or 9 or club. Then lead if you make your hand on the river, if not, check fold. Small sample he hasnt raised a hand or 3bet pre and a with half stack dont expect him to be bluff heavy, or even positionally aware.
Anyone else like a C/C on the flop here? Makes sure we have flushes in our C/C range when a club peels and although your hand is very strong, there isn't too much direct value in betting.
X/c looks like it could be good, depends how you construct your Cbet range though.
Yeah i tend to Cbet less than most i think. I find a lot of people just auto-stab in spots like this so having a relatively strong checking range works well, although it does lead to my Cbet range being fairly weak sometimes.
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