[25nl deep] Trips facing turn raise vs recreational player
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[25nl deep] Trips facing turn raise vs recreational player
SB: $40.01
BB: $61.77 (Hero)
UTG: $32.19
HJ: $66.14
CO: $28.68
BN: $25.20
BB: $61.77 (Hero)
UTG: $32.19
HJ: $66.14
CO: $28.68
BN: $25.20
SB is almost certainly a fish, playing on a mobile phone and has been limping a lot of hands, albeit only over 70 hands. He is was playing 74/21.
Preflop
($0.35)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
3
7
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50
I defend my BB here as we're deep and I want position on a weaker player. Not sure if this is a mistake?
Flop
($1.60)
6
3
2
(2 Players)
SB checks,
Hero bets $1.20,
SB calls $1.20
I bet here for value vs his random AX, 5X and 4X hands. There's also a few cards I can continue betting on, on the turn.
Turn
($4.00)
6
3
2
3
(2 Players)
SB bets $2,
Hero raises to $9.50,
SB raises to $18.50
I think all my Christmas' have come at once, but then... Anyone have any ideas? After his raise fwiw he only has $20 left behind.
Been away from poker for quite a while and just getting back into the swing of things, apologies if this hand isn't worthy of a thread in the forums.
Cheers
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Call turn and revalueate river.
c'mon you have a fish on your right and u decide to play 73s against him. Big mistake IMO just fold, Im sure with this guy limping in alot (and playing 74/21) you can find a good spot to iso him with much better holdings.
As sweet said we need to call turn, and however this is obv a tough spot to just pay him off. I would like to find a fold here given I feel like the only hands we beat in this spot are 34 and 35
Calling 73s vs a fish BB vs SB is def reasonable. All he have to do is beat -100bb/100 for it to be a good call. Calling is slightly more attractive in general since fish fold vs 3b often enough for us to 3b bluff generally.
I would fold pre here not because of our hand strength but because SB is a passive fish. If he was a maniac or aggro fish I wouldn't mind playing this hand.
Because playing deep and in position against a super aggro fish is free money. Meaning he will not only bluff a lot but also Cbet a ton of air. So if you flop decent you pretty much always get value.
BBut here villain being passive I would assume this even if I flop the world probably won't make much money.
As played I would probably not fold turn. But that might be big mistake because villain is passive and whenever a passive fish raises it's just better to fold.
However I don't get why you'd wanna play these kinds of hands vs bad aggros rather than vs passive players because the latter ones are bad at bluffing and valuebetting so you'll get a lot of free cards and can decide on your own when you want the money to go in - sth 73s clearly prefers.
The other player type will more often barrel, bet bigger and likely not fold often enough to aggression that I wanna make a play with 73s.
73s is hand where you're going to get blown off pairs a lot, so you'd much rather be up against a passive fish.
Hands that make the nuts play better against maniacs.
so since this fish likes to limp this makes him passive postflop? I am not sure where you are getting your postflop passive read, Panick
I would probably just flat the turn instead of raising & raise almost any river.
Pretty much never folding vs this guy.His range can be as wide as any over-pair and some random stuff like 6x.
I think he would limp pp`s + 54s and fish also like to trap with full houses, so we can disscount 22,66,63s, 32s to an extent.Only hand we`re worried about is A3 and i`m not sure if he raises the off suit combos of those as well, but lets give him all 4 combos of that.
Even if we add all combos of full houses and 3x we`re still a huge favorite vs his range :
Board:6d 3c 2s 3h
SB
29.34%
27.43%
1.91%
66+, 22, A6s, A3s, K3s, Q3s, J3s, T3s, 93s, 83s, 73s, 53s+,
43s, 32s, A3o
BB
70.66%
68.75%
1.91%
7s3s
Folding pre would be a pretty huge mistake. I'd bet flop smaller tho as you do only have a very marginal 2nd pair. Turn is weird but I'm not folding and calling pretty much any river, maybe except the ones bringing too many straights. I wouldn't honestly be surprised to see him overplaying some value hands even (like overpairs).
I dont get you guys are calling here, the guy has an PFR of 21, and we got 74o which is pretty much the same as the proverbial 72o.
Turn, I am pretty worried, unless you think he is spazzing with air, I think we are beat by A3,23. I dont think overpairs play this way at all. I dont like the raise, there earen't too many worse 3x in his range, apart from 34,35 maybe.
I have 73s.
Also, against a fish like this I'm surely not just going for value against worse 3X in his range am I? I mean as mentioned earlier, I think he can have loads of random overpairs etc.
Thanks for all the input guys :)
3betting this hand is fine if you know he's capable of folding. I'd call at midstakes against this fish, but I don't know if it's good in your spot, because the rake is so much higher.
Turn raise is okay, but his range is wide that he probably has lots of air that's drawing dead. Would rather call turn and raise some rivers.
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