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200nl zoom sick river spot 3bet pot

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200nl zoom sick river spot 3bet pot

Blinds: $1.00/$2.00 (6 Players) BN: $381.77
SB: $311.54
BB: $451.83
UTG: $334.34
MP: $340.16
CO: $449.52 (Hero)
Preflop ($3.00) Hero is CO with 8 8
2 folds, Hero raises to $5.00, BN raises to $16.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $11.00
Flop ($35.00) Q T T
Hero checks, BN checks
Turn ($35.00) Q T T 8
Hero checks, BN bets $17.71, Hero raises to $60.00, BN calls $42.29
River ($155.00) Q T T 8 K
Hero bets $112.00, BN raises to $305.77 and is all in, Hero folds

i personally like my turn ch/r with 88 but i wouldnt say it isnt my std line there with 88 but we need to protect the our draws which we prefer ch/ring on the turn. i would question a ch/r with q10 here so that leaves me in een impossible spot with basically the nuts and it seems a bit strange, to bluff me off AJ(?) while holding the Ac a lot of the times yourself (seems like fd with Ac are his most likely bluffs here)

villian is a reg,pretty aggressive over 2k hands. wtsd of 30 en ws$ of 70

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Gramsci 10 years, 2 months ago

Hey master !

Ill make a quick answer for now, but ill try to elaborate later. I see what your trying to do here by creating a ch-raising range on this turn, but IMO its going to be very difficult to optimiz this strat vs good vilain, because as you said ch raising with QQ or Q-10 would suck a bit since we block continuating value range of OPP. This leave us with only one quad combo for the nuts and vilain can have all nuts too. So extracting value is going to be very hard vs thinking as he may try to bluff our capped range and not call enough vs our value bets. I think my default would be to have only a leading range that include OB on turn and River with some of my range so that way we can put more money expend our bluffing combo range and be difficult to play vs that strat.

What do you think?

PS; as played I fold river because everyone is just a supernit at zoom :P

MasterofPKR 10 years, 2 months ago

its going to be very difficult to optimiz this strat vs good vilain

Hai Gramsci,

Youre prob right, having a turn ch/r range is prob not the best strategy here :) Although it wont be way out of line, its kinda impossible to be balanced as you said.

FIVEbetbLUFF 10 years, 2 months ago

yea not really sure c/r turn is great bc a lot of draws that u may balance this with dont benefit from narrowing oppponents range so much (cuz then up against more FH's). these are hands that prefer to keep pot smaller so lead and if you get called and hit FD, its easy Vbet. if u raise and he flat and u hit the club, its much more fuzzy if ur vbet is even profitable cuz he def bet/call all FH's on turn

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