160 deep cold 4b QQ spot
Posted by Pat Blye
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160 deep cold 4b QQ spot
SB: $182.72 (Hero)
BB: $93.42
UTG: $106.85
HJ: $100
CO: $157.99
BN: $106
BB: $93.42
UTG: $106.85
HJ: $100
CO: $157.99
BN: $106
Preflop
($1.50)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
Q
Q
UTG folds, HJ raises to $3, CO raises to $9, BN folds, Hero raises to $22.50, BB folds, HJ folds, CO calls $14
UTG folds, HJ raises to $3, CO raises to $9, BN folds, Hero raises to $22.50, BB folds, HJ folds, CO calls $14
Flop
($50.00)
9
5
T
(2 Players)
This is a farily awkward spot to flat the 3b being OOP with an extremely polarized range and deep stacks. I'm fairly certain that vs these two people, I probably don't have a cold calling range (even if we're all at 100bbs). I think c4b/f is the best option especially with no history of villain 5b bluffing. I should probably make it slightly bigger pre...25 gives him a slightly worse price.
I feel like his range for 3b can contain a pretty wide range (most offsuit broadways, JJ+, and high suited cons etc) and that he can continue with most of this range in position vs this 4b- though I think he'll fold the bottom of his range and hands that don't play well in spot such as T9o or KJo (assuming he has those).
I think checking could be okay here as we're going to check-call down as this is a pretty decent flop for our hand and allows him to bluff off if he wants. But if we do bet should we be looking to 2 or 3 street here?
I'm interested to here thoughts on pre and flop... Also it doesn't show up but I led for $18 on flop and he raised to $38 so there's that.
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I would probably also underbet the flop hoping villain will spew off and do something crazy with his draw . overcards etc. So now way I'm folding now when villain raises you. Call flopraise and ch/jam turn imo.
Don't like checking because you don't know if villain is gonna spew off 160bb deep with a bluff or valuebetting worse hand then yours. So when you chose to check it's a guessing game. I mean, in my experience, it's more likely villains will spew when you're underbetting then when you check. They will often check down with AQ/AK or bet flop/turn ch river with a other weak hand.
Against his range you are crushed. He doesn't raise/fold there JJ so you end up vs range consist of 99,TT, T9s,QQ+. Even if he has sth like QJs or sth like 78 his range overall is stronger that you betting range and 160bb eff even in 4bet pot he jut might float draws hoping to take the pot from you on later streets.
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