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10z: Flat 22 From BTN vs 2.5x UTG Open - Flop Set

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10z: Flat 22 From BTN vs 2.5x UTG Open - Flop Set

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): $12.00
SB: $9.89
BB: $12.00
UTG: $15.60
MP: $14.09
CO: $13.14

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 2c 2s
UTG raises to $0.25, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.25, fold, fold

Flop : ($0.65, 2 players) 2d 8d 6h
UTG bets $0.26, Hero raises to $1.00, UTG calls $0.74

Turn : ($2.65, 2 players) Qh
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.00, UTG raises to $11.65, Hero ???

Villain is playing 38/38/0 over 8 hands and has opened AKo from UTG previously. I have virtually no time in this pool and am just beginning to collect info on these players. It's 10z but the max buy in is $12 USD (120 bb's).

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RaoulFlush 4 years, 3 months ago

So you think about folding this?
There is 2FD and various GS on the board...this is a snappcall for me. Sure: overbets are often nutted, but we are at the absolut top of our range here and something like JT/9T/QX/97/57 with a FD (or bare NFD even) might jam here. Vs an basically unknown im never folding at this staxkdepth

Mudkip 4 years, 3 months ago

I mean, nothing to it really, you just get the money in with a set and no straights or flushes on board, if its set over set its set over set, nothing you can do.

If he only does that with a set you're printing against him as he is not getting value with other strong but non-set hands+not denying equity so don't sweat it.

Deactivated User 4 years, 3 months ago

Thank you to both of you for the input on this one.

Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): $12.00
SB: $9.89
BB: $12.00
UTG: $15.60
MP: $14.09
CO: $13.14

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 2c 2s
UTG raises to $0.25, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.25, fold, fold

Flop : ($0.65, 2 players) 2d 8d 6h
UTG bets $0.26, Hero raises to $1.00, UTG calls $0.74

Turn : ($2.65, 2 players) Qh
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.00, UTG raises to $11.65, Hero calls $7.75 and is all-in

River : ($24.15, 2 players) 7h

Hero shows 2c 2s (Three of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 18%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)

UTG shows 6d 6s (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 82%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)

UTG wins $22.95
Rake paid $0.96

I did snap call this. I knew that 66, 88, and QQ were all in his range but as you both pointed out - that's a fraction of his total combos here since he has numerous flush draws, overpairs, and a gutshot that all easily could have check shoved vs my turn overbet. All in all, I don't see how we can fold this or what are we really ever playing 22 for, right?

Do we think this is a +EV play overall though? Calling with 22 on the BTN vs an UTG 2.5x open? I know a lot of players don't even have a calling range from anywhere other than the bb at these stakes today. Lastly, aren't I basically breaking a rule here by overbetting the turn and setting up for stacks while villain's range is still uncapped? Or is my overbet appropriate considering just how many draws are still out there in villain's range?

Mudkip 4 years, 3 months ago

Actually wrote that you could size down overall first being IP but then deleted because villain is bad (he should never c-bet there) so you might want to push value a bit.
22 is a fine call, just make sure it low frequency (at those stakes you might get away with calling it more often but bad habit)

Deactivated User 4 years, 3 months ago

As far as I know, it almost always has. There have been times when new patches temporarily broke it but for the most part, all the major HUDs work with WPN blitz. Still, Ignition is so much softer it's remarkable. I grew to like anonymous tables at times whereas initially I struggled terribly on them. I think it helps grow your game, too...making exploiting players on regular tables much easier over time. You saw my graph I posted the other week, though. I absolutely crush 5nlz on Ignition at this point.

Deactivated User 4 years, 3 months ago

Mudkip Why should villain never cbet on that flop? He's got middle set.

Mudkip 4 years, 3 months ago

Range disadvantage + OOP + sets make more of you range than of his so you got a nut advantage as well. Basically your top 8-10% of hands destroys his top 8-10% of hands so he doesn't really want to bet and narrow ranges.

HawksWin 4 years, 3 months ago

Seems ok post flop. Not a fan of flatting 55-22 vs UTG opens pre in this rake trap (especially on ACR where blinds are going to squeeze ya more more often and they are going to own us postflop more often vs. sites like Ignition).

As far as advantage goes, he will still likely hold and equity edge on this board. He has max 6 sets, we have the same 6 plus 22 sometimes. We have TT as our best overpair (we 3b JJ+, at least we should) he has 99+. He has the best 9x (A9/K9/Q9/J9), we potentially have T9 as our best TP (we aren't flatting A9s/K9s/Q9s/J9s pre I assume). I think he is going to have more diamond/diamond combos than us.

As for his play (c betting flop), I like it. I am not checking made hands as UTG here. If he only bet sets (6 combos), most overpairs (with diamond) and the high equity stuff, he is going to be in good shape. Checking more often on rainbow boards obviously.

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