10NL stars zoom hand - should I just call on the turn?

Posted by Scrubx

Posted by Scrubx posted in Low Stakes

Posted 9 years ago

10NL stars zoom hand - should I just call on the turn?

Blinds: $0.05/$0.10 (6 Players) BN: EVolverr: $10.78
SB: WCT17: $10.27
BB: myscholov: $14.55
UTG: Baboscrubx: $10.05 (Hero)
MP: androigo: $10.05
CO: tych8888: $29.40

No real reads on villain, though judging by his 3b sizing pre he most likely wont be the best reg ever.

Preflop ($0.15) Baboscrubx is UTG with Q A

Baboscrubx raises to $0.27, androigo folds, tych8888 raises to $0.70, 3 folds, Baboscrubx calls $0.43

Flop ($1.55) A Q 3

Baboscrubx checks, tych8888 checks

Turn ($1.55) A Q 3 J

Baboscrubx bets $0.80, tych8888 raises to $2.86, Baboscrubx raises to $9.35 and is all in, tych8888 calls $6.49

So AXhh is possible same with Qxhh - KT should be quite quite quite unlikely since A) it gets 3b pretty rarely vs utg and b) if someone 3bets it he will most likely cbet the flop.

JJ is def. possible, obviously we are blocking AA and QQ but we might still see them at some really low freq.

Lower two pairs are also quite possible and we will pretty often run into AJ here imo.

Judging by his pre flop 3b sizing we can also expect some spazzes like K4hh. He also still could have def. have some T9 combinations in his range and generall some fdraws.

That all being said would you still just flat the turn raise? What is our plan on the river? Being oop otr really sucks monkey-balls right?

I'm quite fine with my shove but I'm interested in other opinions on it.

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screamdustry 9 years ago

I prefer stacking off on turn beign OOP.

When fish is miniraising flop and then check/raising postflop its usually very strong range (so im not really expecting huge profit stacking off there without monster), but still no way to fold there AQ. Calling makes some sense IP to keep his range wider, but dont really like it without position.

Scrubx 9 years ago

Hmm? He didn't minraise flop nor pre, he checked back the flop and 3b small pre - but yeah I see were you are comming from villain will have a pretty strong range raising the turn here.

elbabbelino 9 years ago

His big raise-sizing on the turn makes it unlikely he is folding after his raise.
So the biggest question, in my opinion, is whether you are ahead of his turn raising range or not.

JJ (3 combo's), would likely 100% of the time play exactly this way
KTs/KTo (16 combo's), discounted because of preflop action. I think people tend to check it back with a significant percentage on the flop, though .
AA/QQ (2 combo's total), discounted.
AJs/AJo (9 combo's), discounted somewhat (would cbet non-zero % of the time).
QJs/QJo (9 combo's), discounted by 3bet pre, wouldn't always raise turn?
33 (3 combo's), discounted by 3betting pre and by checking back flop.
AhXh, KhXh, QhXh (27 combo's), heavily discounted esp. by pre-action
JJ/KT/AA/QQ/33 have you crushed (8 combo's of those total seems reasonable?)
AJ/QJ are way ahead (6 combo's seems reasonable?)
(pair +) flushdraws you are decently ahead (6 combo's seems reasonable?)

Given that villain is never folding this means I would be leaning towards shipping on the turn. I do think it's very close though. Calling turn and calling any non-heart, non-J seems acceptable approach?

Scrubx 9 years ago

Yeah pretty much my thoughts here. Being IP would change this spot hugely but going into the river being oop just kinda sucks. A combination that also makes some sense is A3s but yeah it's only 1 combo and its already discounted.