100zoom - TPTK squeezed pot

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100zoom - TPTK squeezed pot

BN: $95.50
SB: $112.35
BB: $108.12
UTG: $108.71
HJ: $124.70
CO: $153.95 (Hero)
BN seems nitty but only 100hands 17/13/9 AF1.5

BB is 33/26/15 with 33% squeeze over 200 hands
Preflop ($1.50) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt A J
UTG folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BN calls $2.50, SB folds, BB raises to $10.50, Hero calls $8, BN calls $8
Flop ($33.00) J 8 7 (3 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15.89, BN calls $15.89, BB calls $15.89
Turn ($80.67) J 8 7 6 (3 Players)
BB checks
Bn has $70 left, i'm not sure I can value bet this again 3ways and if i bet I probably need to call a shove from either.

Do we just try to get to showdown? If we check and button jams do we call/fold?

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BigFiszh 11 years ago

It seems to me as if you "blindly" bet the flop w/o taking into account what possible outcomes exist and how you´d handle them ... what were your reasons to bet the flop with the size you chose?


Hova 11 years ago

I bet for value and protection. There is a lot of bad turn cards if I check and I can definitely get value from worse. The sizing I admit I didn't think about too much and is just my standard for stabbing these spots. But looking back I don't think I would change it much, I think if I go bigger I'm in a tougher spot OTT with one villain calling and 1PSB left, and if I bet smaller BB's pair plus gutshots good price. Would you bet more like 19? Or are you suggesting checking?


zooroaster 11 years ago

Not very happy to get two calls on the flop.  I'm XC OTT... TBH, not sure too many TP would bet there by btn if we miss a turn bet (although SPR is at 1). I'm just trying to get sdlike you suggested.

ItsToothPasteISwear 11 years ago

Do you think BB is ever check/calling AA-QQ on this flop, and if so how often? If hes not then I just bet the turn. If he is, then I would check and see what happens.

Hova 11 years ago

probably not, but if I bet that turn I feel like I only get called from like 4combos that I beat from the button, KJs/QJs, and I expect him to check those back then I can vbet river.  


In the hand I did check, button snap shoved and BB folded and I ended up folding. Feel like I should have called now though


ItsToothPasteISwear 11 years ago

Hell call TT/99 and JTs 98s as well. and all thats still more than what he has that beats you (88/77 T9s). Plus its an 80bb pot, there is a lot of value in protecting vs 2 players, so even if you bet and they both fold, its a win for you


Hova 11 years ago

Idk, I can't see him calling with 99/TT when I bet again after getting called twice on flop, I think getting a call from JTs is even optimistic tbh - since it's going to be committing for a full buy-in. I oracle'd my equity vs a few diff shoving ranges and it seems close.. I should only check/call turn if he jams all Jx and some ATdd/89dd type hands. 

guljo 11 years ago

I would just 4b this PF, BB is bluffing a bunch and btn doesn't hold a monster often, so we can just take it down here and avoid situations like this.

Like played, I think both players would be slow playing a lot on this board. 9T, 88, 77, are possible for both players. Of course KJs, QJs is possible but we block this. I think BTN doesnt float that much here since BB can CR. BBs check/call is suspicious as well, he is getting good price for many holdings so I guess he has many hands with backdoor equity but he can be trapping as well and waiting to CR turn.  I think check here is best and see what they do, but I would lean towards folding.

Hova 11 years ago

surprised you 4bet here I didn't even consider it tbh, but thinking about it more it's probably good since although the button is nitty he has reasonable 3bet so prob not slowplaying premium hands and yeah its not like I love life when I flop TP

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