100Z, T9o on BTN vs BB, 3bet pot
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100Z, T9o on BTN vs BB, 3bet pot
Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 (6 Players)
BN: $100.00 (Hero)
SB: $98.50
BB: $102.72
UTG: $100.00
MP: $102.50
CO: $116.04
SB: $98.50
BB: $102.72
UTG: $100.00
MP: $102.50
CO: $116.04
Preflop
($1.50)
Hero is BN with
9
T
, , , ,
Flop
($20.50)
5
6
9
,
Turn
($20.50)
5
6
9
2
,
River
($20.50)
5
6
9
2
Q
,
26/20/af8.7/3B:10, 192 hands
I hate getting CR so I checked back to river.
I had one earlier against a similar aggressive opponent and I had to fold turn to CR, I had a gut shot to the nut straight on turn, same situation, 3bet pot, I had position, that V probably CR his AK which was a correct move.
Although, here, I could probably call a CR because I'm in much better shape this time.
Thoughts?
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fold preflop, once its checked to you on the flop you can stab small or check with this combo, likely leaning toward small bet with your suits, same for turn, think if we check flop we have to bet turn with a high freq with this combo, it needs a lot of protection against broadway combos that checked twice, once we arrive to the river we probably need to put in some sort of bet and can size down to something like half pot with range if you're worried about being capped here...you'll have hands that need to bluff and need some value combos to balance
How often would villains in your population check/raise the turn for value or protection after the flop was checked back? Especially considering that the flop is very wet and that the turn makes it even more dangerous for his made hands to be outdrawn on the river (unless he himself is drawing to a nutty one card flush -- but he's need to hold precisely one of two cards), why would he not bet the turn after you check back the flop in order to protect his hand and not let you check back and realize your equity for free? When he checks the turn, I think Villain caps his range and you should bet for thin value and/or protection. Otherwise, you're the one letting him realize his equity for free. Of course, if he nevertheless check/raises, you can probably safely fold. I would welcome contrary advice from others.
Not very often but I know of like five regs that does it. lags obviously. Thin value and thin raise.
sim i ran has ip with equity/ev advantage on this board and should have a very high block freq ip once oop checks on both flop and turn and 9x is bet at very high freq
Yeah, okay, that makes sense, small bets in position seems to be the way to go then.
Not a fan of preflop. We can't really defend this and make $$$$$ vs 5x here. This type of player is going to make our lives difficult by 3 betting our LP opens so I would massage my range with more hands that continue. This hand flops horribly (flopped top pair is often dominated, he flops straights sometimes when we flop nutted, he flops better trips, etc.). The open is probably on the cusp but we have to dump pre.
Postflop, probably taking a stab on flop and going to stab turn if I missed it on flop.
fold pre, obv.
Yeah, the preflop call is a little too loose, imo.
Open pre is standard. Given rake and not anything wild known about villain we can fold pre as stated above.
Flatting isn’t awful, but when we flat the 3b we are often up against hands like 10+ AJs+ AK AQ some 78s etc. When we flop top pair and we are more capped at hands like 109, 78, 22-99’s, etc. we need to be betting for protection. There are very few turn cards that help us. I typically like to see a size up on flops like this, if we can get any two broad way cards to fold, we are printing money here. If we get check raised so be it, and we don’t have to find any weird river situations like we are in. If we get called and we find a deuce turn we should be sizing up our turn bet as well, puts any broadway in a terrible position without a club. My stance is I’d rather be putting the villain in tough spots to make errors than finding my self in one. Which could also be a good reason to fold pre again.
As always, my play isn’t always the right play. Happy to hear others thoughts :)
Thanks for comments. The villain showed AKo on river in case if you are curious. I'm a calling station so but sometimes they will show up with AQ/KQ there also, just so you know.
you have AQ here at a pretty high freq as part of your check twice range, not sure what villain is trying to accomplish as their check has some ev and bombing river is really forcing indifference to a part of your range that might stab flop or turn at decent freq (small-mid pps), the rest of the hands they're forcing you to fold they have beat...AK is pure check otr in sim I ran
That's an interesting point, The AKo beats all OC that missed the board. Pair or PP will be difficult to fold out. So what does bombing the river accomplish? I don't think the line is GTO. Indeed this is probably a spew, imo.
ran the sim, AK is never bet at any freq, it just tries to showdown and probably bluff catch, again your highest freq check twice and bet river are AQ/KQ and AK has blockers to both, when AK bets its folding out worse and getting called by better where it can x/c and have a higher ev...the hands that should bluff river are Ax that fold out your stronger check backs, so Ax that folds out AKo the times you do flat it or AJo, etc...they'll also have suited broadways that have no sdv that need to bluff, JThh type hands...they can't go crazy here as they have a narrow value range once it checks twice, if they're bluffing AK/AJ/AT etc etc then they're massively overbluffing river
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