100NL Turn Check Raise...what to do?

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100NL Turn Check Raise...what to do?

Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 (6 Players) UTG: $169.66
MP: $117.34
CO: $437.26
BN: $100.00 (Hero)
SB: $64.62
BB: $100.00
Preflop ($1.50) Hero is BN with A 6
3 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, SB folds, BB calls $1.00
BB is unknown.
Flop ($4.50) 4 5 A
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50
Turn ($7.50) 4 5 A 7
BB checks, Hero bets $4.66, BB raises to $18.50, Hero calls $13.84
Figured this was a good card to double barrel giving me the OESD... But What do i do against the X/R? Yes i block some villains Two pairs but they do have all sets in their range and 68s is possible as well. Is 3B a valid option or is that lightning money on fire?
I think my hand is a little to strong to fold tho.
River ($44.50) 4 5 A 7 T
BB bets $39.53
literally used up all my time bank on the river. was pretty stumped on this one

thoughts? Feed back

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mitchr1598 7 years, 4 months ago

Theoretically I'm pretty sure this would be mixed on the river, making it a great hand to make exploitative adjustments with. I doubt there are many players that can be creative enough to find bluffs here at 100nl, therefor I would fold this hand. I like using the fringe hands to make exploitative adjustments with as it doesn't change your frequencies so much that it opens you up to huge counter exploitations.

As for your turn question, I don't think you should be 3-betting any hands at all. Also you mentioned 86s but didn't say 86o. 86o is definitely in his range also which adds a tonne of combos to his value region

Taunto_88 7 years, 4 months ago

I like using the fringe hands to make exploitative adjustments with as it doesn't change your frequencies so much that it opens you up to huge counter exploitations.

What exactly do you mean? im not to sure i understand. How does using fringe hands not change our frequencies to much? (sorry for the dumb question)

mitchr1598 7 years, 4 months ago

Not a dumb question. So the fringe hands are the ones that are mixed between calling and folding (and sometimes raising) at equilibrium. The EV of folding is 0, therefor if both players are at equilibrium then the EV of calling is 0 if a hand is mixed between calling and folding. So if we adjust to folding every fringe hand, then we don't lose money vs someone playing at equilibrium. This is vs the alternative of folding every time we have a bluff catcher.

How does using fringe hands not change our frequencies to much?

Let's say GTO would call this river 60% of the time. If we exploit our opponent by folding all bluff catchers then we might only be calling say 15% of the time. Whereas if we only fold the fringe hands then we might be calling say 40% of the time. By folding all our bluff catchers we open ourselves up to getting bluffed relentlessly by our opponent. Therefor that's something we only want to do if we have a really solid read. Whereas folding just the fringe hands we can do with just slight reads without much risk. You could definitely argue this is a spot where you want to fold all your bluff catchers, whether it is or not, this is fold either way

po1ydeuce5 7 years, 4 months ago

What about checking back turn? I think i’d be a bit more polarised and prefer to check behind these weaker Ax

mitchr1598 7 years, 4 months ago

Betting is often best with hands that have a draw to go with them. That's because they can still get multiple streets of value when their opponent calls and they hit their draw

Lifeguard_22 7 years, 4 months ago

Bet call turn bc you have oesd. Fold river bc your very well protected and turn XR is underbluffed in general - just my 2cents though :)

kalciis 7 years, 4 months ago

Isnt it's a mixed strategy on turn? We should have straights on river, when we check back turn, right? Or we should pick hands like 67s,56s? Or pick A6o with flush blocker?

scrazy 7 years, 4 months ago

Don't worry checking back turn is a very good move. As you said maybe its a mix strategy so you can't screw up without information. I just checked with some calculations and in a lot of cases EV(checkback) > EV(bet), obviously there are some setups where the opposite is true.

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