100nl QJo 3bet pot on the turn
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100nl QJo 3bet pot on the turn
BN: $100 (Hero)
SB: $164.47
BB: $130.89
UTG: $68.27
HJ: $269.67
CO: $171.59
SB: $164.47
BB: $130.89
UTG: $68.27
HJ: $269.67
CO: $171.59
Preflop
($1.50)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
Q
J
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $2.35, SB folds, BB raises to $8, Hero calls $5.65
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $2.35, SB folds, BB raises to $8, Hero calls $5.65
Guess this is a close call... maybe a fold vs the BB 3betting range and call vs the SB 3bet range. He has a 10% 3bet range over a small sample 150hands and i know he is a reg. 27/21
Flop
($17.50)
T
4
K
(2 Players)
BB bets $10,
Hero calls $10
Turn
($37.50)
T
4
K
J
(2 Players)
BB bets $21
Tricky turn imo, fold? push? call?
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You should have quite many better combos than this, like 4s/Ts/Js sets (obv depending how you play it pre), lots of 2pair hands, maybe few Q9s combos, AQcombos and KQ combos, so I'd guess this hand should be close. I'd guess I'm calling here if I expect BB to 3b, and barrel quite a bit heart heart combos, so here that should mainly be AhXh, but I'd guess most of villains on this stakes do not 3b these to often..
Or obv if you know opponent have some leaks like betting hands he shouldn't be and/or paying you off on 9/J/A rivers and/or folding on heart rivers with anything other than AhQh, which I'd guess plays like this 100% of the time by anyone
As for the shoving range, I don't know if you should have one here with no specific reads, given huge part of villains value range should be str8
I think 4s are more of a call than QJo but I call with both unless villain is a tight 3bettor.
As for turn it's a very tough spot. On one hand villain should have some river give ups you can show down against and you do have equity vs his value range. But because of that turn your equity is way worse vs his value. You will also get blown off your hand a fair bit on river blanks. And if you hit your implied odds are now a lot less.
I think I would fold but I'm really not 100% sure.
Pre is a fold imo.
As played its def. taff. I think the J looks better than it really is. You do not have good equity vs his valuerange at all, given that he can have JJ-TT,AQs+,KQs,AQo+ and the Jack is def. a card where Villain is not bluffing too frequently because it hits your range pretty good.
Given those 2 points I like a fold unless we do not know more about him.
I agree with jonzocker - its a fold preflop (imo). Reverse implied odds and all that, also you say this:
"maybe a fold vs the BB 3betting range and call vs the SB 3bet range."
What do you mean here? I would expect the BB 3betting range to be wider, given that he is closing the action (nobody is acting behind) and the SB range to be tighter. So i'd be more inlined to call vs the BB than SB but I wouldn't be flatting QJo to a 3b here often.
AP I think it's quite likely we're folding too much of our range OTT (or OTF) if we don't call here, but if we have some kind of population read that they're not barrelling this turn wide enough we can fold.
Im openning like 65% OTButton and i think this is a close call pre but if i have trouble playing this hand postflop i guess i should be folding pre, idk...
I see a lot of regs that dont have any flattin range on the SB besides pocketpairs and defending the bigblind by calling with the 25% of their ranges
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