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100nl HJvCO skip flop cb facing aggression

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100nl HJvCO skip flop cb facing aggression

Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 (6 Players) UTG: $104.50
MP: $120.09 (Hero)
CO: $104.50
BN: $107.79
SB: $164.82
BB: $145.75
COvHJ cold call 12%(43 hands)
IP fvcb 58%, bet vs skip 58%(24 hands)
turn bet SRP 39% (87 hands), I don't have the stat for bet turn after bet vs skip.
Preflop ($1.50) Hero is MP with T Q
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3.00, CO calls $3.00, 3 folds
Flop ($7.50) T 4 6
Hero checks, CO bets $6.44, Hero calls $6.44
Turn ($20.38) T 4 6 3
Hero checks, CO bets $14.60, Hero calls $14.60
River ($49.58) T 4 6 3 7
Hero checks
what do you do vs river bet? call down? Should I have folded turn?

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Sean Fri 9 years, 9 months ago

With his stats, I think he'd be 3betting JJ+ pre (maybe lower), so the only thing he'd be barreling from the flop for value would be ... maybe AT, KT, TT, 66, 44. So 23 combos. But he's also likely to 3 brl all his fd's. Take out Ah[Kh,Qh} and he has maybe 13 combos of fd's? And 9h8h got there. So really only 12 fd bluffs against 24 value hands, so he'd need to add a lot of other random bluffs that don't make sense to make calling a good sized bet (or the likely overjam) on the river profitable. (Of course you can also add in some JT, T9s hands that he'd bet early streets for protection, but he'll check those back now, so I still don't think you're winning often enough against a river bet.) As played, I think folding is the much better option.

I think maybe cbet/fold the flop is better than 2 check/calls? Your hand looks super capped like this, so he could probably overjam cocktail napkins on the river and get enough folds to show a profit. Betting 58% of the time against missed cbets seems a little suspicious, so I think it's easier to play if you just bet. If you suspect he's overbluffing these spots, make sure to miss a cbet with some monsters, too.

Limp Limpson 9 years, 9 months ago

when I was reading the hand, I liked the flop and turn, but the guys above got me thinking and I have to agree, this is not a board where we need a xC range.
We should build a xR range (sets and draws basically) to protect our checking range and a cbetting range, the reason being is that we really dont want to xC with any valuehands (like xC with TT and letting him xb fds ott is a disaster). Never check calling seems to be the way to go I think?
Im not too sure.

We cant call otr and presumably, if we do xC some hands otf, we should have better hands to bluffcatch with (sets).

LuckyMer 9 years, 9 months ago

Yeah, I agree, generally we do not want to have x/calling range in spots where there are 3+ overcards to our hand (like JT on T44, or K9 on 974, but not KJ on J43 - only 2 OCs here).

I mean, I'd rather have x/calling range on static boards.

Jonas Smailys 9 years, 9 months ago

I prefer your line over any other so wp. River will always be close and heavily dependant on villain. You probably prefer hands w/o diamonds or hearts for a call but between diamonds and spades/clubs it's likely a very small difference so there's not much need to worry about this.
Anyways, I'd mostly base my decision on his aggression frequencies throughout the streets.

Sean Fri 9 years, 9 months ago

That's interesting. Do you like x/c line to prevent getting raised off our showdown value? It seems like he's pretty aggressive against missed cbets, so he's almost always going to put us in a difficult spot if he bets again on the turn. Since he's folding to cbet 58%, isn't it profitable to be cbetting a lot?

MrCalzone 9 years, 9 months ago

Having Top-Pair meh kicker is a pretty good candidate to protect our check-calling range on this board-texture in a HJ v CO spot.

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