100NL AA, Flat/back 4-bet, fish overbet shoves flop

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100NL AA, Flat/back 4-bet, fish overbet shoves flop

SB: $401.60
BB: $146.67
HJ: $196.49
CO: $480.58 (Hero)
BN: $87.08
Preflop ($2.50) (5 Players)
Hero was dealt A A
HJ raises to $2, Hero calls $2, BN folds, SB raises to $11.50, BB folds, HJ calls $9.50, Hero raises to $33, SB calls $21.50, HJ calls $21.50
Flop ($103.50) T Q 8 (3 Players)
SB checks, HJ bets $163.29, and is all in

Hero...???????


HJ is a fish, sb is an aggro reg. 

if we're HU then i snap, but having the reg still to act, on this board, when we're deep, is quite annoying. 

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Hova 10 years, 11 months ago

Gross. 

If we had any reads would be v helpful, I think if he plays the nuts this fast and calls J9o/QTo preflop we should fold. If he doesn't it becomes a call. We need 38% if hu and:

If he plays J9o, QTo this way:

If not:



disco5tu 10 years, 11 months ago

i think i probably should've 4-bet a bit bigger pre, but not much. it's a back 4-bet IP, so i don't think it has to be huge. 

Fish

I don't really have any reads on the fish other than i had him labelled as a fish. this makes it pretty difficult to assign him a range. if we assume he isn't too bad, then he probably doesn't jam J9/sets, but he probably doesn't jam toooo many bluffs and stuff. if we assume he is bad, then he may have some crazy stuff, but i think it's also more possible for him to have good stuff.

Aggro Reg

I think his range is a looooot wider than what you have given. i think he probably can have KK-88, so he can have quite a few sets, which is the main problem for me. his range is wider in general though so it also gives him a few more hands that we will be beating. I'm not sure we can just call/fold because i think he's just about crazy enough to stick it in with stuff we beat so i think we'd have to call it off vs a shove because we would be getting a pretty sick price.

IMaufJute2 10 years, 11 months ago

Ship it. Its a tough spot but we cant lay it down neither, so that means protect. And i think it will be slightly profitable in the long run.

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