100NL. 4bet pot. What type's of bluffs should I be using on this river, if any? Does mine qualify?
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100NL. 4bet pot. What type's of bluffs should I be using on this river, if any? Does mine qualify?
Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 (8 Players)
MP: $82.97
UTG+1: $168.26
MP+1: $102.63
CO: $138.35
BN: $138.26 (Hero)
SB: $99.00
BB: $103.96
UTG: $124.36
UTG+1: $168.26
MP+1: $102.63
CO: $138.35
BN: $138.26 (Hero)
SB: $99.00
BB: $103.96
UTG: $124.36
Preflop
($1.50)
Hero is BN with
J
T
, , , , , , ,
Flop
($60.50)
K
A
3
,
Turn
($60.50)
K
A
3
3
,
River
($94.50)
K
A
3
3
A
Not a ton of reads on V. Just a little higher VPIP/PFR/AFq than normal.
Presumably I would have more Ax in my range on this river? I say this because his sizing is so small, that IP I would be calling a lot of my good suited A's which would play like this and given his line I believe he wouldn't have a ton of Ax in range on river. Would be odd to play like that with AK, I think, which is most his Ax.
What can my bluffs be here? Is JTs a good bluff candidate?
Thanks.
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Well, first of all, I don't really understand pre. Why not just flat IP and take a flop? Why call his 4bet?
Anyway, think you should bluff this, I mean what other bluffs you gonna have?
Not sure what villain has, maybe some weird Axs or something, doesn't make any sense to check a strong hand here ott, unless he thinks you will vbet anything that's calling or something, I don't know lol
Another thing is, what is your pf calling range that gets to river like this. Don't think we need to range check IP, might be ok and just bet turn and river nutted with some bluffs and play slower with middle of our range
Hard to say, because I don't know your preflop ranges. I would say that flatting JTs on the button would be better, but squeezing may be ok. I am not sure that calling the 4-bet is good. Yeah, you're in position with a decent hand, but SPR is pretty low and you're not getting enough implied odds. You need about 20-to-1 implied odds for a suited-connected type hand.
Villain's range on the river is probably something like QQ-JJ, maybe A5s, and maybe some KQs type hands.
I think bluffing river is good. You would definitely check many Aces on the flop and this is probably one of the worst hands in your range. The board is double-paired, so use a smaller size. I would treat this as a single-paired board, since neither of you should have any 3s in your range.
In a spot where you have very little air in your range, you should mostly bluff with those hands.
What is your value range here? A5s (do you call a 4 bet with this?), AK (do you not 5 bet ship this?), slow played AA, and KK (which I think you should 5 bet ship 100 bbs deep)?
What does the rest of your range look like outside of value? Do you have QQ-JJ here? Do you have all JTs? What about KQs, QJs, T9s?
I think your range on the river is a lot of air unless you merge and start value betting KQs and QQ here.
Hopefully those pics went through ok. But its my 3bet, my call 4bet to 2.3x sizing IP, and Vs 4bet.
So when ran in Pio, JTs is a slam dunk bluff, but if adjusted for playing TT-QQ like the line V took, Pio prefers bluffing with any combos left of 99, TT, QQ, QJs, KJs, and KQs.
What do you think of that?
So what I'm interpreting from PIO is that your bluff is good against wider 4 betting ranges. I think it might be good to check back here against tighter 4 betting ranges (which I think is typical of 100nl).
Also I think that QQ, KJ, and KQ are value bets and that TT, 99, and QJs are bluffs. QJs seems like an especially good bluff since it blocks QQ which I think is mandatory call vs your bluff on this river.
Good point. So I put in a super tight 4bet range. QQ+, AK+. No bluffs. I node locked for V taking his as played line with only QQ, JJ, then another adding AA, then another adding AKs. In all scenarios, Pio takes a similar line. Basically betting everything minus JTs and JJ. Hmm.
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