100 NL Zoom - Overpair facing big flop raise
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100 NL Zoom - Overpair facing big flop raise
BN: $100
SB: $123.02
BB: $130.01
UTG: $125.23
HJ: $91.94
CO: $211.04 (Hero)
SB: $123.02
BB: $130.01
UTG: $125.23
HJ: $91.94
CO: $211.04 (Hero)
BB is 35/22 over small sample (63 hands)
Preflop
($1.50)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
Q
Q
UTG folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to $3, BN folds, SB folds, BB calls $2
UTG folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to $3, BN folds, SB folds, BB calls $2
Flop
($6.50)
6
9
T
(2 Players)
BB checks,
Hero bets $4.65,
BB raises to $27.91
I spew so hard in these spots. It's the tournament player in me who is just used to play smaller effective stacks. I see this raise and immediately try to put villain on the nut flush draw. How would you guys play this?
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i HATE these spots. i think he's telling you he has a pretty strong range (T+flush, NFD, 2p, JQ, 78, JJ?), that likely doesn't want to see a turn. maybe he's bluffing and you shouldn't believe him? having the Qd removes some of the FDs and makes me want to call a bit more, but if he's likely to 2,3 barrel hard, i'm still likely to get out of there.
if it's a strong tendency, maybe you float? readless, i tend to think that it's a slightly ahead/way behind situation...
If you block some semi-bluffs, you should be more incentivized to fold, because Villians range is more value heavy.
Even garbage like A8o has decent equity any many barrel cards. A tough opponent won't check-raise here and just give up on the turn. You often need to call a bet-shove on later streets, so calling with these marginal hands will just lead to you getting owned later.
easy stack off on flop :)
he rasing is huge. probably wants to commit himself with a flush draw or st8 draw
This is terrible advice.
The board hits Villian so hard that I would check back the flop. You can continue on almost any turn card.
When you get raised big here, you absolutely have to fold.
He's either got a FD or pair/SD + FD which you're barely ahead of or barely behind against, and two pair + that crush you.
His sizing tells me he's got a value hand he wants to protect. T9 or a set makes a lot of sense for Villian.
Check back, or bet-fold. Don't listen to Daniel.
i thought this was a 1/2 game will look later
i really cant wait to play you chael
You're embarrassing yourself. I know you lied to me through PM, and to other players as well.
Daniel will not play me HU. And that's not because of me, he won't play others HU either.
Please stop acting like you're some high stakes baller. You were posting 100NL hand histories a little while ago.
Deposting money takes 10 seconds. You told me you can't play on Stars, yet you told other players you can't play on their networks, and only play on Stars.
You've never done anything on this forum but lie and put people down, and giving them advise you know is bad.
So I suggest you put some money on Stars and sit down with me. I don't hide from search, so you can easily find me.
But you won't, because you're not interested in playing me or anyone else HU above your regular stake.
Guys, he's just a troll. Even replying at old posts, trying to piss people off.
http://www.runitonce.com/nlhe/200bb-deep-0501-line-check/
Here he posted a 50NL hand history, yet he's challenging Mushmellow HU at any stake.
RIO should add an ignore button, so we can just use to protect against trolls.
yet your saying you want to play but your not sitting at any tables under the name MMAusherdog ??
I was at three tables when you PM'd me.
Now all of a sudden you can play? You told me you can't play on Stars.
super wet board but we also can be drawing slim if he has 78. I think he is more likely 2 fasplay strong draws cause he is out of position. I think calling and shoveing the turn on a brick could be tricky move here since we are in position.
We block QJ and have the Qd. For the very reason that it is wet i think villain can also simply be playing 2P+ fast here
Thank you all for the advice. This is a spot where I really spewed and gii vs a set. Gotta work really hard on my game. I'm such a fish in cash games. No wonder danielmerrilees wants to keep it that way ;)
The decision IMO is to shove/fold. He must be insane to x/r 6 times the bet with TPTK hands. I would fold this a lot of the time. You can't call because half of deck is terrible for your hand and if you shove, the majority of the time you are drawing very thin or against a huge draw like Jd7d. But I think from his sizing that he has a hand that needs protection like top2 or bottom set.
Well I did ship it and he did have a set of 6s. I felt silly afterwards.
@ Chael: thanks for correcting my broken logic. i'd thought that holding the Qd gives him more air/bad draws, but you're right - it also skews his range towards the goods. What does your gut say you'd need to have to continue on his c/r?
I think the main problem is betting the flop. Overpairs because weak bluffcatchers without blockers when check-raised, so I'd need pairs with blockers or draws and two pair + to continue.
It's not just about being ahead now. Competent regs will barrel very aggressively on later streets, so peeling once to see if he's full of it won't work.
absolutly right i correct myself if he is not hyper agressiv and bluffs ith air here a lot we have 2 fold against the range he reps we are far behind thx opening my eyes chael
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