Weird multiway spot vsing an OOP cold call vs my 3b by a good reg in the Bigger 55

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Weird multiway spot vsing an OOP cold call vs my 3b by a good reg in the Bigger 55

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Hey guys, thought this was a real weird spot from the Bigger 55 last week.

I'm not used to good regs like pistons87 cold calling me, although I do feel his range *should* be more face-up when he does this. I immediately began attempting to construct a range pre of something like AA, KK, AQs, KQs (is this too nutted?) and, although I really doubt it, I guess he cooould potentially have some other suited connectors like JTs? I should note that I'm not sure about the last part and feel like I'm including it for the sake of widening his range. I'd be really doubtful of him doing this considering that he has shove stacks behind.

I'm also wondering how much you guys weigh the value of a blocker in this spot (I don't really value them in NLHE anywhere near like I would in PLO)

I should note that I was 3bing @ 10%....(only like 75 hands though w villain)

As played... I think that I'm close to the bottom of my value range OTF and given the range I assigned pistons87 pre, am likely behind at this point. I'm unsure if I should just always be betting like 1/3 pot in thse spots though in case I'm wrong or in the case he has like KK. Even then I'm unsure how often I'd have the best Ace vsing a call from crazy_zade.

OTT I think it's a fold, I'm doubtful pistons87 believes that both of us has air and I certainly don't believe that he is overbet jamming the river with air vs a likely top pair kind of holding by crazy_zade.

Am really interested to hear what you guys think about his range, and his play in general.

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tightlines 12 years, 3 months ago
I agree that pistons87 cold call here probably is pretty face up and I like the range you constructed. If pistons87 perceives both of you to have a decently wide range here his flat looks so nutty he could use the appearance of his own range to open it up a bit but I also think this is pretty doubtful. Would you have bet AQ on the flop? I agree with the fold on the turn although the turn card and action made it pretty easy on us, and we are certainly faced with at least a slightly more difficult decision on the turn on average as played.
Didier Guerin 12 years, 3 months ago
have been thinking about my betting range on the flop, it's kinda weird because I don't *think* that I'd bluff here MW given his cold flat. So I think I'd check back everything including AA/AK/AQ and flush draws. I think stacks are okay for me to check back my value hands and get them in by the river. I think that lets me be more balanced in this spot. On another note (not that they'd be part of my 3b range tooo often) but I think it would be a really interesting decision with 22/33. Not sure how I'd play them.
Grayson Ramage 12 years, 3 months ago
It's pretty sick that there is only one combo each of AA and KK that he can have. That said I would still expect him to have AA or KK in this spot. I would play the hand the same way that you did.
I think Pistons cold-called here since he perceived you both to be randoms and did not expect you to think his cold-call looked so nutted. I think his play is optimal in some situations, especially if he feels that neither one of you will think his cold-call looks like KK+.
Phil_McGroin 12 years, 3 months ago
My general default range for someone cold calling in this kind of spot is TT-QQ, AQs, AK

I like your strategy of only checking back on this flop.

I think this hand is well played

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