UTG1vsBB folding to pot c-bet with FD, 40BB eff
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UTG1vsBB folding to pot c-bet with FD, 40BB eff
Blinds: t50/t100 (9 Players)
MP: 6,594
UTG+1: 3,664
MP+1: 6,849
MP+2: 4,654
CO: 3,553
BN: 3,914
SB: 5,932
BB: 6,442 (Hero)
UTG: 3,097
UTG+1: 3,664
MP+1: 6,849
MP+2: 4,654
CO: 3,553
BN: 3,914
SB: 5,932
BB: 6,442 (Hero)
UTG: 3,097
Preflop
(150)
Hero is BB with
4
6
, , ,
Flop
(582)
9
T
2
, ,
Final Pot
UTG+1 wins 582
I am getting the odds to call if I were to see the river too, but against a pot sized c-bet I dont this he will let me do that often enough. If we were 20BB effective would you just x/shove?
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Less than 12BB I'd probably shove this river but you got plenty of time (if it isn't a hyper/turbo) with 20BB and wr don't need to risk it for a hand which can be dominated in all aspects. We got around 38% chance of hitting the turn or river. We're looking at a lot of air combos aswell from Villain when he's betting pot, 77,88,JJ,QQ,KK,AA, AT, A9, sets would of went for value on this board and a pot size bet is telling me he's trying to steal rather than going for value (unless the guy is aggressive as hell and just a complete clueless person). Though with a lot of air combos we are still dominated so 12BB or less is the only way I'm going to even consider a shove, calling wouldnt be an option due to our SPR.
If anyone can correct me I'll be grateful.
You have to call at least one bet even vs a pot size, your equity is more than enough for it (also considering the backdoors and the fact you can either x/r o lead many turns)
wow really? huh. thats surprises me. i'd feel better about it with over cards.
if we turn a pair or a gutshot can we call another pot size bet?
jam if he checks turn is ok? or take a free card? either ok?
feels like he likes his hand betting that much. cbet steal betting less usually... gross if he has a better fd.
man, i think i let this go usually... have to look into it. thanks.
I've been thinking about this hand a lot... some questions:
(1) What consideration might we give to the fact this is a tournament and not a cash game and while we might have odds for a certain play because we can't rebuy we factor that in to our decisions?
I know hero has villain covered; he has less than 60% of hero's stack so he can't bust us but generally speaking how much differently (if at all) should we play tournaments compared to cash games in regards to pot odds/risk of busting out/losing chips on a draw.
(2) Pedro, so if turn is a 3,4,5,6 (14 cards) we can lead turn? We can lead a diamond also obv (9 cards). That's 23 cards! If the turn is a blank and we lead villain folds if he whiffed flop/turn. I like this fold equity very much.
If he calls or raises though we are committed to calling off which might mean we have got 2902 (rest of villains stack) in on turn when pot has 1682. We have either 12 outs (to flush or straight) or 14 outs (to flush or two pair/trips). I don't like this price at all.
If we miss any of the 23 cards on the turn we have only 9 outs so we have to x/f if he bets more than 1/3rd pot right? (and we have lost 550 calling on the flop). Unless he is a payoff wizard.
(3) How often are we dominated by a bigger flush draw?
Or a bigger fd with a str draw or a pair and a fd?
I like that so many turns help us and a turn bet may win it for us if villain cbet flop and has very little equity but overall I am wondering how ev+ calling the flop is.
(4) thoughts on donk bet leading flop or x/r the flop?
This has been much more interesting hand than first appeared. Thanks Pedro for your comments above.
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