Tough spot on FTB in 33 dollar turny
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Tough spot on FTB in 33 dollar turny
CO: 251301
BN: 158349
SB: 80546
BB: 208386
UTG: 65376
HJ: 152312 (Hero)
BN: 158349
SB: 80546
BB: 208386
UTG: 65376
HJ: 152312 (Hero)
11 players left, so almost FTB. Utg had just lost a big pot the last hand he played and insta jams his last 13BB.
Preflop
(7500)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
A
J
UTG raises to 64576, and is all in, Hero raises to 151512, and is all in
UTG raises to 64576, and is all in, Hero raises to 151512, and is all in
In game I knew that I was way ahead of utg range and was feeling ok with the re-jam. Without letting you guys know the outcome is this allways a re-jam?
As I allready have said I think this is a re-jam all day long, but is there ever any circumstances that make this a fold? The only specific situation I can think of now must be FTB in Sunday Million (For ICM reasons)?
What do you guys think?
As I allready have said I think this is a re-jam all day long, but is there ever any circumstances that make this a fold? The only specific situation I can think of now must be FTB in Sunday Million (For ICM reasons)?
What do you guys think?
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My intuition says that AT is a fold and AJ is pretty close to me. He needs to be shoving enough KQ/AT/A9 to this shove become a +EV in terms of future game simulation.
Went to holdem resources and find 77+, AJs+, AJo+ is a profitable shove being AJo a +.2bb cEV so, probably it is a ICM fold or very very close fold.
Thanks for the reply Raphael!
I think the same as you if this was a "normal" shove from UTG. However, experience from similar situations in tournaments under $ 50 is that players who have just lost a big pot jams almost all aces down to A4s / A5o when they have around 10BB left.
The reason I'm thinking more on the hand after the turny is if any of the four players behind me wake up with a hand, three of the four players left to act is covering me in chips. Is it than too much too jam 31BB over the open shove? Or am I just overthinking the situation?
you are welcome (:
I am sure that losing a big pot have an impact on people ranges but it is too subjective to take into account when deciding a close situation like this. Holdemresources takes how many people left to talk into the math but AJ is fine, blocks a lot of people reshoving ranges and them combined near 14-16% of the time you are going to face QQ+/AQs+ so I think is fine but if you think your edge against the final players is high enough it is ok to fold on this situations.
I definitely think I have a big edge one the final 10 players, so in that case this maybe a fold. But I just hate too make a big laydown just to see a worse hand win! :P
Final results for the actual hand.
UTG: Q10o BN: Thinks for 40-50 sec and jams AKss. I lose to both hands.
avoiding variance when the skill edge is this big is a safe place to be (:
gl at the tables
Ouch
True! Ty! U2! :)
He has to shove 25%-30% for your AJo to be profitable. So a fold would be the safe line to take, even more so if you think you have a big edge.
Given the QTo horrible shove he made, you most likely made the correct call.
*rejam
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