Sunday 500 ITM multiway flop.
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Sunday 500 ITM multiway flop.
PokerStars Hand #134374970879: Tournament #1196751739, $500+$30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1000/2000) - 2015/04/27 3:36:10 CET [2015/04/26 21:36:10 ET]
Table '1196751739 49' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: jambeyang (68056 in chips)
Seat 3: Zackattak13 (40826 in chips)
Seat 4: Stev0L_ (61402 in chips)
Seat 5: harrrrmonica (133168 in chips)
Seat 6: nilsef (30276 in chips)
Seat 7: ActionFreak (107463 in chips)
Seat 8: PearlJammer (27746 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero (61109 in chips)
jambeyang: posts the ante 200
Zackattak13: posts the ante 200
Stev0L: posts the ante 200
harrrrmonica: posts the ante 200
nilsef: posts the ante 200
ActionFreak: posts the ante 200
PearlJammer: posts the ante 200
BillLewinsky: posts the ante 200
nilsef: posts small blind 1000
ActionFreak: posts big blind 2000
* HOLE CARDS *
Dealt to Hero [Jd Ac]
PearlJammer: folds
Hero: raises 2200 to 4200
jambeyang: calls 4200
Zackattak13: folds
Stev0L: folds
harrrrmonica: calls 4200
nilsef: folds
ActionFreak: calls 2200
* FLOP [9s 6c As]
ActionFreak: checks
Hero: bets 11449
jambeyang: calls 11449
harrrrmonica: calls 11449
ActionFreak: folds
TURN * [9s 6c As] [5d]
Hero: checks
jambeyang: bets 52207 and is all-in
harrrrmonica: folds
Hero:
My image has been fairly active, they have seen me get involved a bunch and the table has been in this formation for quite some time and we've been trading pots a lot.
We've just hit ITM and I'm interested in this spot not just in this specific hand but how we should approach our overall range play in these type of situations.
Reads:
Jambeyang would flat a wider range than a usual reg here, his 3bet % is considerably lower and he flats more often than others anyway. I have a hard time quantifying what his range would be exactly. If I had to geuss the weakest hands he would flat here are 55/A10s and maybe a few sneaky suited connectors. Including a bunch of strong hands to induce action behind.
harrrmonica had also been flatting a lot, spot where I think he 3bets mostly for value, his range can be extremely wide here.
Actionfreak, not very squeeze/3bet happy - his range is obviously super wide getting an awsome price OTF.
Considerations:
The main difficulty I have on these type of flops is that I can't think of a way to not look very strong and still protecting our hand vs a fair amount of hands. Obviously when we cbet here we just hope to get in vs some straight/flush draw but it feels like a stretch to get value from many hands worse than ours - I think all 3 of them would give serious consideration to folding A10 when I cbet here.
Another option is check/jamming which I dislike for multiple reasons (checked behind often and gives a way a lot of equity). Also I doubt that is going to get us looked up lighter.
I'm interested in your thoughts on this hand in particular (do we jam turn etc?) but also how you guys generally approach this spot where we are in a multiway pot with low stack to pot ratio and a medium strenght hand.
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if your flop strategy multiway is to c-bet fairly often with AT+, then just make a conscious effort to check more AQ+ OTT. if you do that i think AJ becomes a pretty clear fold. He's got an over-caller behind him which should make his jamming range significantly narrower
Rather x/c flop. Turn I am happy folding.
I think that this is a spot (which doesn't come up very often) where there is not much value to be had and similarly, not much need to protect your hand either. Although flop is 4-way, we have TP on an A high board, so we aren't vulnerable to overcards and there aren't as many FD's with the As otf.
While the concept of betting for protection is still valid, I believe that the cost of doing so is much too high given the relatively innocuous (no GS's) texture of this board. I think if we check we can get a much better grasp on ranges as I wouldn't expect stabs given there aren't all that many value hands that utg+2 or btn can rep.
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