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standard shove??

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standard shove??

UTG1: 88340
UTG2: 15658
LJ: 22625
HJ: 44833
CO: 22968 (Hero)
BN: 17890
SB: 12875
BB: 6765
UTG: 6332
Preflop (1500) (9 Players)
Hero was dealt A 4
UTG folds, UTG1 folds, UTG2 folds, LJ folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to 22768, and is all in


this is a micromillions event with a gazillion runners, no real reads on table as new,the previous hand i shoved the button with a2 and got 2 folds. The bubble is approaching,as I have a stack that covers all behind just stick it in and put pressure on them? even if called and lose prob still fold to a min cash, whats the bottom your range in this shove spot?


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Tom M 11 years, 4 months ago

Why can't we just r/f vs. the two bigger stacks and r/c vs. the BB? I mean, we could even r/f vs. the BB since it's the bubble and he should be jamming pretty tight. We don't have to jam here for 18 BB effective. 

ShovingHereIsOK 11 years, 4 months ago


I would just r/f if they are not flatting alot with A4o here. I mean even if they are calling with like 6% of their range (which is rly small range but let's say the bubble is a factor here) you will be called in 18% of the time most of the time with like 33% eq. Eventhough you will win 82% 1500 chips and considering the math I did you should win like 600 chips everytime you do this shove here so it's +EV but that's like less then 3% of your stack and I think the risk you are taking is just too big for +3% of your stack. Of course it's all your decision :)

best27 11 years, 4 months ago

yeh I think standard was the wrong term but in this situation being on the bubble, 3 reshove stacks behind I just think it folds out a lot of there reshove range. I also noticed the replayer hasn't included the antes which would make it slightly more profitable id imagine. btw I got called out the sb with 55 which I dint expect,cheers for the comments all.

steamer 11 years, 4 months ago

In a micromillions event you have extremely recreational players and quite a few regs as you get deeper. When you shove the recreational players just look at their hand and will call too wide in a lot of spots. To the regs you turn your hand face up. I'm not surprised to see 55 snap. 

I think r/f is best unless BU or SB are likely to be troublesome in which case I could see an open fold. There's enough time and you have a better stack for restealing than jamming imo.

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