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Spot on BTN with AQo vs active opener and active 3better from CO Big 109

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Spot on BTN with AQo vs active opener and active 3better from CO Big 109

Blinds: t1,750/t3,500 (9 Players) MP: 38,226
UTG+1: 253,176
MP+1: 218,894
MP+2: 129,866
CO: 124,088
BN: 104,090 (Hero)
SB: 101,505
BB: 43,702
UTG: 60,852
Preflop (5,250) Hero is BN with Q A
3 folds, MP+1 raises to 7,000, MP+2 folds, CO raises to 19,250

Ok, so.

lojack plays vp 22 pr 21 3b 5 so he isn't overly active but been aggressive in some spots over 115 hands

lojack played a solid but fairly active game, been good and aggressive in some spots.

co plays vp 38 pr 25 3b 7 cb 100 over 56 hands

co is a player that is active but also kind of tight in certain spots, hasn't shown anything garbage when gone to showdown. a player that is difficult to know where exactly you have him, even though stats shows hes active.

My perceived image is tight aggressive.

Do we like 3betting getting it in here? Cause we do commit ourselves if we go to 50K.
Flatting button in pos vs two active players maybe the better option?
Or just fold?

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felipejay 7 years, 2 months ago

Even though the hand samples are very small, both players seems pretty agressive so i like to just shove here, we have takedown plus we block AA, AK and QQ's, so imo is very good spot to cold 4bet shove.

SwissOdds 7 years, 2 months ago

Does 7% 3b really qualify for being aggressive? Seems weird to me.
Furthermore, CO 3bet sizing looks more like he s wanting a call. Does that translate to value?

felipejay 7 years, 2 months ago

Actually imo 3b around 7 he's more likely to have some 3bet light on his range, less than that i think you could say he's more on the tigher side, i think his size is standard.

Other than that, I think you should consider that you playing the big 109, it'll be more spots where villains tend to 3bet more in LP action, and since bb is kinda short, our play looks more stronger.

timetopop87 7 years, 2 months ago

I would say that over a 56 hand sample size a 7% 3 bet means very little. Accompanied with his vpip and rfi im leaning towards him being aggresive but the sample size is simply too small to make any solid conclusions.

If we assume that MP1 is opening 21.57% - 22+,A2s+,AT+,K8s+,KJo+,Q9s+,QJo,J9s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,76s,65s,54s.

CO is 3 betting an 8% range of (complete guess) TT+,AQs+,A5s-A2s,AJo,KQo,T9s

MP1 calls our shove with 3.5% TT+ AK

CO overcalls with 3% JJ + AK

And CO calls 3.5% if MP1 folds

Then AQ o loses 0.76bb for a 30bb investment.

We only need 8 more combos of raise folds to be added to COs 3 bet range for AQo to become marginally profitable so it is close. An interesting side note is that in this exact example given the guesstimated ( and probably/ possibly wrong) ranges the following hands actually perform better as cold 4 bet shoves compared to AQo. 33-99, AJs,ATs, A5s-A3s, K10s+, QTs+, J10s. (If this is the type of player who never folds AQo here this will not be the case!)

My opinion is that your best options are shove or fold with your stack size. If you think you have a good edge against the field i would fold, if not and there's a good chance co is 3 betting closer to 9% + then ship it in.

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