SB v BB deep in $320 WSOP
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SB v BB deep in $320 WSOP
I think 22-25 people were left, field was 600 or so entries, $45000 for 1st in a $180,000 prize pool (WSOP online tourneys seem to be quite top heavy). No reads on villain at the time of hand.
UTG: (24 bb)
LJ: (50 bb)
HJ: (24 bb)
CO: (53 bb)
BU: (18 bb)
SB : (21 bb)
BB (Hero): (35 bb)
Pre-Flop: (120) Hero is BB with A♠6♠
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5bb, BB shoves
Only dynamic was 10 hands ago SB had limped and folded to my 3.5bb iso.
My question is, should we jam here or check back pre? I think that raising non all in is bad because we can't call any jam from villain and as such we're throwing away the equity of our hand.
I find myself in these spots a lot, and I think at ~15bb or under effective it's a clear jam, but at what stack depth do we start to check back and play flops with A6s?
Thanks
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You can play this hand in very diffrerent ways.
In theory you should raise/call (as vialin is supposed to limp/jam worse) this combo with a very high freq. but checking back (to protect your range) or either shoving (apply most pressure but with high variance) are fine as well, its hard to go wrong with that hand.
Thanks Pedro. If anyone is curious, the question sparked a good discussion over on 2p2, where one user ran some PIO sims. Worth a look IMO:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/183/mid-high-stakes-mtt/sb-v-bb-deep-320-a-1737937/
cool discussion.
I had already seem some SBvsBB short seems from spin players, so if you check EV, not necessarilly the strat, the A6 makes money anyway, thats why I said you can mix it up.
Hey Angel,
Great discussion There on 2+2, but do you think that the PIO Sims até valid ? I Just use PIO for posflop, and I see that ranges for PIO sim are GTO but Far from reality.
Population on SB doesnt use that strategy e on BB neither too. Maybe need to adjuste SB strategy woth node Lock and SIam again for BB solutions, or node Lock BB range and SIMs for SB, its possible?
tconservani
This seems, partially, like a more general concept on GT and Nash Equilibria--in response to those aspects of it, I'd just recommend a bit of research on the concepts (as applied to poker, or even more generally). Basically, there's two coexistent notions of playing Nash, and playing away from Nash for exploitative reasons. PIO will, of course, only ever provide the Nash.
As far as node locking a particular SB or BB strategy--I'm not well versed on PIO (I'm a recreational player--I don't own the software as of now), but my gut tells me that even if it's possible, there's very little point. You'd never know every aspect of a comprehensive BB or SB strategy, so you'd just be making assumptions to the point where the PIO solution would have little practical value. And even then, you'd just be solving for the Nash solution given that particular strategy--not the maximally exploitative counteradjustment, which is what I think you're hinting at.
If OOP plays too wide pre than probably jam is making more than raising with a hand that doesn't flop so greatly but has decent showdown equity,
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