QQ with 44BB out position
Posted by jonathasjose
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QQ with 44BB out position
Blinds: t350/t700 (9 Players)
SB: 16,933
BB: 19,376
UTG: 11,816
UTG+1: 10,323
MP: 12,846
MP+1: 37,098
MP+2: 31,002 (Hero)
CO: 20,341
BN: 36,313
BB: 19,376
UTG: 11,816
UTG+1: 10,323
MP: 12,846
MP+1: 37,098
MP+2: 31,002 (Hero)
CO: 20,341
BN: 36,313
Preflop
(1,050)
Hero is MP+2 with
Q
Q
, , , , , ,
Flop
(63,404)
A
T
4
Turn
(63,404)
A
T
4
J
River
(63,404)
A
T
4
J
9
Final Pot
MP+2
lost and shows a pair of Queens.
BN wins and shows a pair of Aces.
BN wins 63,404
BN wins and shows a pair of Aces.
BN wins 63,404
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Great post.
All in with 44BB.. correct!?
Too loose play.. must raised standard 2.5x to 3x, then on turn, could check after see A, feel the opponent reaction, if he barrel easy fold..or check his stas and decide call or not.
disagree. Why must you raise 2.5-3x with 44bbs stacks ? 2.2x is pretty standard and i think better. People over 3 bet the btn and just flatting oop with QQ allows IP to realise lots of equity and apply pressure. When he makes the 3 bet this big I think shoving is our best option.
If its early in the tournament then I shove, if its late then I think risking your life with 44 bigs is too optimistic not that it is necessarily incorrect but I would prefer to flat that 3bet and look what flop brings. Both of the players have playable stacks for post-flop, would lead out all of the boards without overs (sometimes even with an overbet as shove) and give up if there is overs.
Yes you are giving him more equity with this line but I would like to believe that you are going to be behind with ace on flop most of the times after his 3bet and best you lose 9 bigs than 44, sometimes this line helps you dodge KK+ or a flip against AK on board where overs do not hit on flop as op will lay down to our lead and we do not leave him the chance to cooler us on coming streets as we would have no option to avoid when we stack it off pre and wait for dealer to put the cards on board. Yes we will lose some of our equity against that same hand in those scenarios where future streets don't complete op's hand but same time winning 9 bigs is still a good 20% increase to our stack.
Riverbanged is also correct that by flatting we do allow our op a lot of wiggle room to apply pressure on scary boards but at least we are not setting our tournament life at stake. Even if we check/fold to his flop aggression then we still hold a 35 bigs stack.
Hi!
My experience is that such a big reraise means QQ+, not AK. But I don't think folding QQ is an option. Would be hard to play any hands if you fold this. I think it was an unlucky roll out and you played it best way.
If you think that big reraise means only QQ+, why wouldn't you just fold Queens? that makes no sense
I said " But I don't think folding QQ is an option. ".
but if you think they only have QQ+ why isnt folding QQ an option?
I dont understand this post, you got your chips in good? giving him a chance to catch makes no sense to me, nor does folding..
if one folds QQ here, then what would a 4bet range look like..only KK+. Seems like an invitation to get 3 betted alot..one may argue that QQ should be in one's calling 3bet range, which is borderline fine, id prefer calling when deeper. Also there is no mention what part of the tourney it is, bubble vs early seems like a big consideration.
DISCLAIMER: If you have a large sample vs your opponent, and he 3bets is 1-2%...yeah folding is a consideration..but that kind of a player seems rather rare nowadays.
My comment to this post: I am not a fantastic MTT player, but i dont think one can totally avoid situations where variance has a big role. Thus getting your chips in good..is pretty much all one could ask for.
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