Preflop spot with qq, what to do?
Posted by Jeff
Posted by Jeff posted in High Stakes
Preflop spot with qq, what to do?
Live $580 buy in. Huge field, mostly less than decent players. We have 14800 and the blinds are 200/400/50. About to go up to 250/500.
Villain 1 opens UTG+1 to 900. He has been opening the most at the table and seems to have a wide range, even from early position. He just doubled to 34000 when he called a 4 bet shove with 99 and turned a set. Younger guy mid 20s with a beard and headphones.
Villain 2 has about 4500 chips and is on tilt after losing half of his stack to me. I opened early with 77, he called from the button, flop came q 6 2, 2 diamonds, I check called, turn 7, I check shoved after he bet on the turn. He tanked and folded and has looked disgusted ever since.
Villain 3 is an asian guy who likes to see a lot of flops.
Villain 4 is a younger guy who seems competent, after villain 1 doubled up, he and Villain 5 were talking about how bad the 4 bet all in with AK was with 30+bb.
Villain 5 is a younger guy who seems competent, but doesn't seem to have a deep understanding of the game. His betsizing has been weird all day, kind of like "I know I need to bet, but I don't know ho much, so I'll just throw some chips out."
Villain 1 opens to 900. 2-5 all call. We have qq in the sb, and there is already a lot of money in the middle, about 1/3 of our stack.
The options are:
1) Shove. If the opener calls, we can easily have him crushed. If he folds we get a pretty large pick up without seeing a flop assuming everyone folds behind him.
2) 3 bet. To what size? If we 3 bet too small, we could end up with a 6 way flop in a bloated pot out of position. If we 3 bet to a larger size and get 1 or 2 callers, what is our plan for different flops? A high, K high? 3 to a flush?
3) Call and see a flop.
I don't like option 3 much, and can't come up with a good plan for option 2. What do you all think? Or am I over thinking an easy shove here?
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