Open limping in ep
Posted by bkice11
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Open limping in ep
It seems like people are starting to open limp in EP a lot more than usual these days. I'm intrigued by the idea but so far I haven't really heard any good reasons for why it is a better strategy than raising. Everyone I talk to about it just sorta goes, "I think it plays better as a limp" but never really have anything to say beyond that. This seems like a thing that some really good players have figured out, but for the most part it seems to me that people using this strategy don't understand the concept and are just doing it because it's the cool thing to do.
So if anyone could actually explain when and why this is a better strategy than raising/folding I'd be very interested to learn. Is this just an exploitable strategy that people are using vs certain lineups, or is there a somewhat balanced/GTO range that is good here? What kind of hands make good EP limps compared to raises? Thanks.
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Better hands to limp are those which are pretty easy and better to play in multiway pots being deep, so better hands to fill in this category would be all suited aces and then low pocket pairs, but you should always be careful at which stack you are designing a limp call strategy because limp calling too wide at shallow stacks can be very -EV
I heard babysharkk33 or w/e his name is, the really good player there from Minnesota talk about doing it with medium to AJ A-x's with an M around 15 in ep or maybe right around 20bbs...but a good topic to research for sure.
It's definitely an expoitative strategy. It can be good at lots of stack depths against bad players, especially with antes.
Can also work nicely against good players if they are putting you on an incorrect range.
Seems like a good strategy if you're at a softer table that will limp behind w/ a lot of dominated hands and that you can outplay post. If you balance by limping strong once in a while people are confused as well. With a sub 20bb stack also allows you to save bets later and retain FE on future hands.
I think its fine when you are deep, because your opens won't get 3bet often and that way you can LRR your premium hands and some bluffs, while also allowing yourself to vpip more hands, when you are shallow its kind of silly, stealing the blinds is more valuable, and shutting out limpers as well the BB is more important, you will also get 3bet by more middling hands i.e 100bbs JJ won't 3bet vs UTG open, 20bbs deep JJ will 3bet near 100%.
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