Limp strategy Question

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Limp strategy Question

Say we are 17BB on the BU, and SB/BB also have 17BB, then I will have a limp/jam/some min raise strategy. Should I basically play this same exact strategy if any one of either hero (BU) or the SB/BB have 17 BB (as shortest stack). For instance, if we have 50BB on BU and SB has 17 BB and BB has 40BB, is playing the strategy we would play if everyone had 17BB a reasonable adjustment?

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BarracudaNL 5 years, 10 months ago

There are subtle changes. With bigger stacks behind, our whole range gains a bit of EV, because we can leverage the two bigger stacks against each other. For instance, when we jam 17bb on the button, a 40bb small blind has a less comfortable call with a 40bb big stack behind, forcing him to play tighter, and gaining us some EV on shoving. Similarly, a 40bb small blind has more difficulty jamming over our opens with a 40bb big stack in the big blind behind, and thus needs to do more flatting or small three-betting, also gaining us some EV on minraising. So, with bigger stacks behind, you should lean slightly more towards aggression, although the changes you'll make will be minimal.

MjeuMjeu 5 years, 10 months ago

My thoughts with my limping range is: the lesser blinds you/the blinds have, the more you should polarize your limping range. If for example the sb is a reg with 8-15bb, you should limp a polarized range, QQ-AA, some 65s, 76s, 75s etc. Then raise hands you wanna call vs. a 8-15bb shove.
If both the blinds have more than 15bb, then I like to have raise/call and raise/fold ranges a lot more, because you don't get that good of a prize to call with your bad-mediocre hands vs. a shove.

kobeizdabest 5 years, 10 months ago

How do you adjust when there are weaker players in the blinds at this 12-17BB stack depth. On the one hand, I think they will call open shoves too tight, therefore shoving marginal hands seems more attractive to end the hand right now and more often than it should. However, since they are weaker, limping and playing post flop also seems attractive, since we save our tournament life many times when they wake up with a good hand.

MjeuMjeu 5 years, 10 months ago

Depends on what type of players they are. I think it's perfectly fine to shove like A2-A7, 22-55 and so on. If they don't attack your limps at all, and limp along for example ATo, then you should limp 50-60% (maybe more), and outplay them postflop with position. Then you could raise your strongest hands, to get more in the middle with what's likely to be the best hand.

tconservani 5 years, 9 months ago

Guys,

PIO Sims had some limp ranges, does you think this is good for study? Anyone bought this ranges ?

8-max 30bb 12.5% Ante: 2.3bb, 3x 3bet IP, 3.5x from SB, 4x BB, Squeeze 3.5x IP, 4x SB, 4.3x bb. BTN limp

8-max 25bb 12.5% Ante: Limp, 2x Open, 2.8x ISO IP, 3.5x ISO OOP, 3x 3bet IP, 3.5x OOP.

8-max 20bb 12.5% Ante: Limp, min raise, all in open. 2.8x/all in iso sizing IP, 3.5/all in OOP, calls from BTN. 3bet, 4bet all in.

8-max 15bb 12.5% Ante: Limp, min raise, all in open. 2.8x/all in iso sizing IP, 3.5/all in OOP, calls from BTN. 3bet, 4bet all in.

8-max 10bb 12.5% Ante: Limp, 2x open, 2.5x iso IP vs LP limp, 2.8x OOP, All in 3bet.

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