KK Gross spot in 2100 SCOOP OOP
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KK Gross spot in 2100 SCOOP OOP
UTG2: Jon Doe: 0
LJ: HC_68: 18679
HJ: TMoney0209: 7335
CO: Sphinx87: 22393
BN: busto_soon: 18474
SB: Dimadu: 8079
BB: Jeans89: 47334
UTG: kinglune: 18017
UTG1: gamuro is sitting out: 1725
LJ: HC_68: 18679
HJ: TMoney0209: 7335
CO: Sphinx87: 22393
BN: busto_soon: 18474
SB: Dimadu: 8079
BB: Jeans89: 47334
UTG: kinglune: 18017
UTG1: gamuro is sitting out: 1725
BB300 : my table is kinda aggro, never been able to see a pf open and take down in the last two orbits, but wtever
Preflop
(450)
(8 Players)
kinglune was dealt
K
K
kinglune raises to 600, Jon Doe folds, HC_68 calls 600, TMoney0209 calls 600, Sphinx87 folds, busto_soon calls 600, Dimadu folds, Jeans89 calls 300
kinglune raises to 600, Jon Doe folds, HC_68 calls 600, TMoney0209 calls 600, Sphinx87 folds, busto_soon calls 600, Dimadu folds, Jeans89 calls 300
Not too happy about KK OOP going into a 4-way pot obv, but life goes on
Flop
(3150)
J
3
8
(5 Players)
Jeans89 checks,
kinglune bets 1500,
HC_68 calls 1500,
TMoney0209 folds,
busto_soon folds,
Jeans89 folds
I thought for a bit and decide to bet bigger rather than check/call , board is dry, four way, dun mind them continue here
Turn
(6150)
J
3
8
7
(2 Players)
kinglune checks,
HC_68 bets 3882,
kinglune calls 3882
This HU opponent i ended up with is a fish(stat-wise, and seems love to flat PF and play pots type), but since I only sat down for 2 orbits ,not much info
Do u guys think I'd better C/C or B/F here?
the OESD got there obv, but its only one hand im afraid of except slowing flopped sets
and board this dry so I expected him to fire a decent amount of time when checked to
and if I bet big like 3.8k he may fold many worst Jx, so I think C/C got some merits too
and my plan was to C/C or Donk lead most rivers
Do u guys think I'd better C/C or B/F here?
the OESD got there obv, but its only one hand im afraid of except slowing flopped sets
and board this dry so I expected him to fire a decent amount of time when checked to
and if I bet big like 3.8k he may fold many worst Jx, so I think C/C got some merits too
and my plan was to C/C or Donk lead most rivers
River
(13914)
J
3
8
7
A
(2 Players)
kinglune checks,
HC_68 bets 8100,
kinglune folds
Gross river, AJ get there, and seems its no point donk shoving 11k into 14k and turning my KK into a bluff,
its only got to get called by STR8 or sets or AJ,
I didnt expect to bet wtever hands when checked too as a bluff that often.
One of my friends suggest I can donk 6k which is half of my stack and fold to shove obv
Need advices on both the turn and river plays from you guys
its only got to get called by STR8 or sets or AJ,
I didnt expect to bet wtever hands when checked too as a bluff that often.
One of my friends suggest I can donk 6k which is half of my stack and fold to shove obv
Need advices on both the turn and river plays from you guys
Final Pot
HC_68
wins 14234
Do u guys think I'd better C/C or B/F here?
Need advices on both the turn and river plays from you guys
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I don't play alot of 2ks oonline so i might oversee a thing or two but here is my analysis:
River seems like a clear fold. On this board structure, and given he calls you on the flop with 3 ppl behind him, he doesnt have any bluffs in his range and is very likely to check back all of his one pair hands on the river. Donk leading seems to be quite terrible (on this river and this potsize) and i don't know what do you want to accomplish with it.
The turn is a bit more tricky but let's analyse it.
You said that the opponent likes to see flops so i would assume his range on the turn is sth like that: J10s-AJs, AJo, 33,88,JJ,T9s.
Board: Jd8h3s7c
Equity Win Tie
45.45% 0.00% { JJ, 88, 33, AJs, KJs, QJs, JTs, T9s, AJo }
54.55% 0.00% { KdKs }
If we look at the combinations of hands we have for J10s-AJs 3*4-1=11 (since we have the k of spades), 9 for AJo, for 33&88&JJ 3*3=9 and 4 for T9s. So we are ahead for now 20/33~60% of the time. However i would assume that on every river he is going to bet only with two pair+ and sometimes with AJ, and therefore (depending on the bet size) would c/f almost every river. If we keep that in mind i would probably prefer to bet on the turn, since we could accomplish multiple things:1) He raises and we have an easy fold
2)We protect our range a bit since he is likely to fold KJs,QJs and probably J10s. This is good since he is only going to bet those hands on the river if he improves.
3)We can select the turn size. This gives us also some room to decide whether or not we want to b/f river small.
4)He might not bet AJ that often on the river if we bet the turn and therefore have a more straightforward fold on the river if he bets river.
If we c/c turn it makes life a bit harder on the river since we then have to decide whether or not we want to call river on our assumptions on his frequency to bet AJ. If the rivercard is a 9 or higher i would just c/f river if he bets. He could check back on the turn, which would be great but he is probably to do that only with KJ-J10, hands who can catch up.
Although i think both c/c and b/f is fine on the turn, i would probably b/f turn and then b/f river small on river card <9 and c/f on river card > 9
Think with 60 bb and being UTG to a full table it might be better just to 3x your whole range pre then min.....I think on the flop going say 1200 or even 1000 is better then half pot....Turn is a big mistake imo - checking allows him to checkback AJ,KJs,QQ and bet T9 which really sucks....its interesting to note that the villan could turn his whole range into a bluff since he can have T9 and you cant and your range is faceup and capped(well i guess you could still have jj) - prob would be the best way for villan to play his range.....
OTT: I rather bet smaller considering that his range contains a lot of J9, JT, 98, 97 that won't fold to any size bet and probably won't raise, either. I think your strategy to check turn a strong hand too vulnerable on this board, since that are a bunch of terrible rundowns for you OTR, T, 9, A, J, 8, 7. I prefer to protect my equity there.
OTR: It is disgusting fold but you are behind of all his value range and you don't block much that he will turn it into a bluff and I think he will to try to showdown medium strength hands like J9, J8 and bet 2pair+
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