Interesting Hand at Final Table of Sunday Major

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Interesting Hand at Final Table of Sunday Major

LJ: 960314
HJ: 840624
CO: 870324
BN: 1564509
SB: 880624
BB: 2132444 (Hero)
UTG: 596442
UTG1: 921811
UTG2: 772908
Preflop (45000) (9 Players)
Hero was dealt T 8
UTG folds, UTG1 folds, UTG2 folds, LJ folds, HJ folds, CO raises to 60000, BN folds, SB folds, Hero calls 30000
Flop (135000) 4 9 7 (2 Players)
Hero bets 69995, CO calls 69995
Turn (274990) 3 (2 Players)
Hero bets 175995, CO calls 175995
River (626980) 8 (2 Players)
Hero bets 105550, CO raises to 561334
My read at the time on this guy was that he was sorta fishy (Turned out to be decent) Gave me some trouble on running over the table and winning pots. I felt like at the time he would shove the turn with all of his draws and made hands. I'm not positive if he would shove the river with an over pair but I don't really put them in his range because its more viable he would raise the flop or turn with them. So I really am having trouble finding a hand besides JThh, and 89 that he shoves the river with. (89 being more likely)


That's a super small range and was seeing if anyone had thoughts on this.

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Kcannon 12 years, 2 months ago
I felt that if I didn't bet the river, He was going to be shoving his whole range when I check to him on the river which makes me just have to click buttons and guess I think. I think donking here should in theory limit his options and I would think make him play his hand pretty face up. I was not expecting him to shove and when he did, I can't find much he has. Betting river I think discourages him to bluff less and call more. I think if I check river I have to call a shove a good amount of the time as I am near the top of my range pretty much.
Benjamin Wilinofsky 12 years, 2 months ago
Your hand isn't less face up as a weak one-pair hand if you bet 1/6th pot rather than check and you would have to be leading this flop an insane insane amount for this to be the top of your river range when you check. I wouldn't hate a call now but your river bet accomplishes absolutely zero. Think about his range for a second and how narrow his range of worse one-pair hands is to begin with.
John Shamwoww 12 years, 2 months ago
I like your donk lead > barrell line but your sizing is off IMO.

I would ch/decide river but now i think you're in a worse spot than if you checked river.

For what its worth, i think you're repping less hands how you played it. You only really have a set, 97 or a straight for value as well as you're missed draws such as flushes, overs w/ BD draws and the Ahxx hands you donk with NFD blocker.

Along with you're sizing i think it tells of a pretty unbelievable story because i don't think you're turn and river sizing lets you ever have a straight here so we can discount your value range even more so.

Apologies if longwinded or my thinking is way off but that's my take on it.
flatbreadpizza 12 years, 2 months ago
I hate the flop donk. I think it will lead to a situation where you are trying to rep hearts and will get hero called a decent amount, or you will face a raise on the flop which doesn't put you in the most profitable spot. I like a check/call here. I think we will be able to more credibly rep hands on later streets this way and will be able to exploit how unbalanced tournament players tend to get on the turn and river. I don't mind a check/raise either. I'd rather lead a hand like kq here if I were to ever lead that will be able to get more value when it hits its outs than our hand will with 2 of them being hearts and the other 6 making the board look reallyy really connected.

As played I kinda like your river bet (but hate your reasoning). I think he has a made hand most of the time and isn't going to be turning it into a bluff and this bet does definitely gets some thin value. He can easily have a hand like 55 here and jsut click call. I think if we check we gotta be check/folding so if this bet gets value it has to be a good play. Once he shoves I think it's a snap fold. We only beat a very passively played missed flush draw that got no showdown value which is really optimistic when he certainly can show up with rivered 2 pair+ hands here and we have major ICM considerations with our stack size at a final table.

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